XF300 Frame Grabs

cowpunk52 said:
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Also, setting sharpness "level" to -3 results in a much more pleasing noise print than is demonstrated in my earlier frame grabs without any loss of detail.
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This is pretty much what I figured. Canon 0 sharpness is usually around a slight positive on other cameras. SO -3 sounds about right. Same thing with XH A1.

EDIT to add: This would never be an issue on a moving image anyway. Its not very strong as it is. Though could catch you out with greenscreen where I suspect -3 is a better option.
 
This is a 200% crop comparison of an EX1R & an XF305. Honestly, they both resolve way past the nyquist limit, so with either camera you're not likely to see a huge difference is resolution. What you do get with the XF cameras is more shadow detail, more subtle texture & less aliasing thanks to it's 50mbps codec & 4:2:2 color sampling.

the EX1R with a nanoflash at 50mbps 4:2:2 would probably give similar results, but with the native 35mbps XDcam codec, you see blocking and smoothing over of texture and detail.

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Looks sharp as noted by some but... For my taste it looks too much like digital sharpening, kind of artificial.

Not sure I dig the look of blown-out highlights like in the body painted girl's hair.

It would be nice to see a more neutral image profile.
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
For my taste it looks too much like digital sharpening, kind of artificial.
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The key is on the sensor size. Anyone who has shot from 1/4" (ugh!) up to FF35 (or even still photography medium format) knows very well what I'm talking about. There's no form factor to save the outcome. That's why 35mm format rules.
 
Emanuel said:
The key is on the sensor size. Anyone who has shot from 1/4" (ugh!) up to FF35 (or even still photography medium format) knows very well what I'm talking about. There's no form factor to save the outcome. That's why 35mm format rules.
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What do you mean exactly, Emanuel?

Are you refering specifically to digital sharpening?
 
Cowpunk, you said this video is for an Animal Planet pilot. Are we to assume Discovery HD - which owns Animal Planet - has cleared the XF305 for full acquisition?
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
What do you mean exactly, Emanuel?

Are you refering specifically to digital sharpening?
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The smaller, the poorer and more flat the bokeh is. If not nonexistent.

You need some form of bokeh in order to get a cinematic IQ.

Don't mix up bokeh with DOF, even though the balance between both will weight in the outcome. Ignoring this, it is to embrace an untruth.

We know all, the right balance of the use of a large sensor does mean the larger (up to a certain point) sensor size, the better bokeh and richer handling of DOF.

Again, don't mix up shallow vs. deep DOF with bokeh or yet higher vs. lower IQ.

The key is on both (DOF and bokeh). The poorer bokeh the more flat the result will be, the more 'kind of artificial' with digital sharpening, the image will tend to be.

We know the 1/3" sensor size format has obviously a place and the better ratio of a large sensor won't necessarily unfulfill the usage of a smaller sensor size, just not exactly as far as IQ or cinematic purpose concerns IMHO. Like a Fiat vs. a Ferrari, both have their place, but the latter one will always be richer and have better performance.
 
Thanks for posting these samples. I'm not impressed, from a brand new 8000 euro video camcorder I would expect better quality than what I'm seeing here but it seems it's just another "EX1 generation" camcorder and the purple edge around the bright light shining through between the metal poles left of the rhino are so typical video image like. Image quality of the much cheaper 7D and GH1 are much better.
 
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