what microphone is for the gh1

Thanks for that pic and very interesting diagram, DonalDuc - meanwhile the adapter I referred to above...

I've now seen the other thread here re audio and 4 pole seems indeed to be required - http://www.calculatorking.com.au/pda...-5-to-3-5.html seems to be the kind of thing. I'll get one and report back again.
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has arrived and it's the wrong way round (large plug to small socket - which, now I look at the description, is what it says. Silly me. I'd still rather find that kind of adapter (one with a short lead) rather than the one-piece kind.
 
HERE IS MY QUESTION... IF I BUY THE dmw-ms1 FOR THE GHI, HOW DO I CAPTURE SOUND/ DIALOG WHEN IS THE MIC IS ON THE CAMERA SO FAR FROM THE SUBJECT
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You could use an extension cord and have the mic on a stand close to the dialog source but out of shot (of course) or you could get a trusty assistant to hold it, perhaps on an improvised boom if money is tight. But, an extension cord with those small connectors would be hard to find. I have one with 3.5mm connectors and using that with a Rode Stereo Videomic and a minidisc recorder actually works very well - if the recording device isn't connect to mains power, you should be able to get away with about 25 foot of unbalanced mic cable.
 
menace3000 said:
I bought the MKE400 but cannot find a suitable adapter.
Could anybody advise me where to get one, preferably in Germany / Berlin?
would this one fit?
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I think connections should be 1:1 ... also should it work :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

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Ozpeter said:
You could use an extension cord and have the mic on a stand close to the dialog source but out of shot (of course) or you could get a trusty assistant to hold it, perhaps on an improvised boom if money is tight. But, an extension cord with those small connectors would be hard to find. I have one with 3.5mm connectors and using that with a Rode Stereo Videomic and a minidisc recorder actually works very well - if the recording device isn't connect to mains power, you should be able to get away with about 25 foot of unbalanced mic cable.
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thanks... this is what i'm looking for... sorry for the capital in my sentence, didn't mean to sound like i was screaming
 
I went to Radio Shack today, and all they had was a honking huge adaptor that came straight out the side of the camera. I said 'no thanks'

I'll get one off ebay instead, like this one:

2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor

(When somebody comes trailing in here 6 months from now, sorry for the dead link. It's a 2.5mm 90º jack, on a 1" lead, into a 3.5mm jack).

If you're in the US and you buy on eBay, make sure you find a USA seller!! There's usually one in there nestled among the hundreds of hong-kong listings. I've not necessarily got anything against the hong-king listings, but the US listings generally cost the same ±$.50, and come significantly faster.
 
That looks just what's required - only catch can sometimes be that the shroud of the plug is too big to fit into the GH1 casing, in which case a little carving is necessary.
 
Mini Review of three Rode Microphones

Mini Review of three Rode Microphones

I have used three Rode microphones. The StereoMic picked up way too much ambient noise and the sound of my hands on the camera. The VideoMic is very good and I use it for run and gun. By far the best is the NTG-2 semi-shotgun mic. It has much much better bass, but it was too large for a small cameras such as hybrid DSLRs to use with wide angle with the mic in the normal position; and if if I slid it backwards the sound was GREAT but the mic overhang the rear of the camera forcing me to use the LCD and not the viewfinder. There is a great kit with the NGT-2 and the necessary hotshoe suspension kit at BHPhoto for about $270. I have talked to the people at Rode and they recommend the NTG-3 but that is a shotgun condenser mic that costs many times more.

My concern about using hot shoe mounted mics on the GH1 is reports that the autogain adjusts so quickly that pauses in speech cause increases in gain and background noise. Any experience with this?
 
http://www.vimeo.com/6354069

Here's a sample of my GH1 with the Sennheiser MKE400 and a radio shack adapter. Not too bad. The adapter I'm using here is a mono one, because it was shorter than the stereo one (didn't stick as far out from the camera).

Let me know what you guys think of the audio quality.
 
If you are in the $300 range, you may want to check out the Audio-Technica AT-875R with the K-Tek K-SSM mount. This short shotgun mic has very low handling noise and can even be used as a stick mic (in a pinch).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ica_AT875R_AT875_Short_Condenser_Shotgun.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/323324-REG/K_Tek_K_SSM_K_SSM_Shock_Mount.html#accessories

You can read a review and listen to sound files here:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/right_mic_brockett.html
 
Hi there,
just to let others know: I'm using my GH1 with a MKE400 with some HAMA adapter, it works perfectly fine to me (using it since a month now, haven't bothered to put samples in the internet - subject is too boring as far as I'm concerned ;)
Hama sell several adapters (2,5 male to 3,5 female), mono or stereo, only metal without a cable, or cable-based - just search on the hama-site....
They all cost just a couple of €, at least here in Germany :-)
 
My 2 cents' worth:

The major problem with audio on the GH1 is the camera's horrendous AGC. To control it, get a Juicedlink preamp/adapter set (with or without phantom power, it's up to you) and then pretty much any mic mentioned here (Rode, Sennheiser etc) will sound great!

My personal setup is the Rode Videomic with the Juicedlink CX211. Why did I cheap out? Because I have a Zoom H4n for audio backup (but I realise this is not for everyone if only because of the extra $$$ involved). But a preamp/adapter is essential, and juicedlink probably gives you the best bang for the buck as of this date.
 
Sounds interesting. How does the juicedlink control the camera's AGC? Does it send a constant, inaudible tone to the camera? If so, does this inject any audible hiss?
 
I'll post a sample later. Got to go get a battery (or rather BATTERIES) for the Rode first (not being phantom powered) and you can judge for yourself. I'll post samples with and without the Juicedlink plugged into the GH1.

I know the Beachteks supposedly do inject that 19hz tone to fool the GH1... but there's no positive documentation anywhere I can find (now someone will probably post the info that I've been hunting for for the past 2 weeks). :-D
 
chinkster said:
... I know the Beachteks supposedly do inject that 19hz tone to fool the GH1... but there's no positive documentation anywhere I can find (now someone will probably post the info that I've been hunting for for the past 2 weeks). :-D
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Not "Beachteks" plural, but "Beachtek" singular, as in their model DXA-5D.

The DXA-5D's ability to workaround a cam's audio automatic level control/AGC is the whole point of this particular model. It's not top secret information, it's right on their website:
http://www.beachtek.com/dxa5d.html

But ... see also:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1747058&postcount=43
 
Haha. Thanks for the info. No wonder I couldn't find it. I was under the impression that ALL the Beachteks had it. I never even considered that model because of the cost.

OK, as promised, here are two clips of a quick and dirty test I did. Notice the silence at the end of the audio and you can see the GH-1's AGC at work, and the effect of the juicedlink on the AGC.

http://rapidshare.com/files/280867442/Rode_Videomic_no_juicedlink.mp3

http://rapidshare.com/files/280867443/Rode_Videomic_with_juicedlink.mp3

Filenames are self explanatory.
 
Dont Understand

Dont Understand

I dont understand how the juicedlink defeats the AGC of the GH1. I am trying to decide between a Beachtek DXA 5D and the Juicelink . The consensus seems to be that the juicedlink generally is the better performer as it has internal low noise pre-amps. But it doesnt have the 20k tone insertion which the beachtek has and claims to throttle back the AGC - so I am a tad confused. Any help in deciding much appreciated:undecided
 
What is the biggest differences in using mics other than the Panasonic branded one when it comes to the recording of a live band?

I’m thinking about getting the DMW-MS1 since it’s a good price but I want to hear people’s opinions.

I know its best to get a separate audio souse.
 
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