too good to be true?

delaro said:
i don t really understand where is the problem guys.
we, on french television, have david letterman shows, larry king shows, and a lot more. it was shoot in ntsc, right? So, it must be easy for a tv company, if they like someone's NTSC hvx200 work to transfer it to be suitable for PAL diffusion.

and why do people want this cam? for hd mostly, no? why buying this expensive cam to shoot documentaries, weddings, ...
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I have the same point of view...

delaro said:
i don t know how it is in the US but all TVs you can buy here are pal/secam/compatible. so there is no problem to find monitors to work on. anyway, it s impossible to find a simple CRT in a shop now. only lcd, plasma and projectors are available in france. and a most of them are hdtv ready.[/url]
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The problem is the broadcast system of the european TV operators but your free way of thinking is fresh air and typical (good) french.

delaro said:
we also have some movie theatres with digital projection since the release of star wars. and the number will increase this year. and am i wrong? you don t need film transfer for that.
godard told 20 years ago that film will die, he was right. like for digital photography. like for everything. and some people will say that s it s not as warm as the old fashion (like always) but new generations will be accustomed to the new images style and will find that movies using film look old. like "muet", like 18fps, like black&white, like SF movies using puppets before.

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It's nice to know how you - a french guy - understand my (digital way) point of view...

jochem said:
Yes, for this price you can get nice SD quality. However, if you can get a nice SD cam which happenes to shoot HD as well, you'd get it too. (if you would be able to afford it)
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Yes, you're right TOO, as far as my point of view is concerned.

jochem said:
and Godard didn't mean film would die as in celluloid alone! The concept we know now as 'film' will die, so also the digital stuff. The digital revolution is probably causing this, because it is now available for everyone :angry: or should I be :)? I don't know yet
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I think that we already know what means this revolution, precisely for that...
 
i bought a sony hdv HC1 one month ago because i wanted something HD to play with, waiting for the HVX. the point is, when you begin to shoot and edit HD footages it seems very very very difficult to go back to DV resolution. it s like looking at VHS when you are playing DVDs for monthes. and i m sure i will not be the only one to react like that. so i m pretty sure that i will probably never use the dvcpro50 capabilities of this cam even if i intented to do so 2 monthes ago.
 
I never did understand why so much enthusiasm with the DVCPRO 50 for FILMmaking when DVCPRO HD is there too.
 
jochem said:
Yes, for this price you can get nice SD quality. However, if you can get a nice SD cam which happenes to shoot HD as well, you'd get it too. (if you would be able to afford it)

and Godard didn't mean film would die as in celluloid alone! The concept we know now as 'film' will die, so also the digital stuff. The digital revolution is probably causing this, because it is now available for everyone :angry: or should I be :)? I don't know yet
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you should be happy. it s the same revolution we are having in photography. With celluloid film photography people were taking pictures of their family carefully, with a nice and unimaginative composition. now, as it s free to shoot, they are experimenting, trying things and are becoming more clever about photography.
same for movies: most of the people who are shooting movies for decades are very talented to speak and to find some producers to give them money but it doesn t mean they are talented artistically. now that people can shoot easily they will become more clever about video and cinema, more criticals. and it will permit to a lot of shy videasts (who would never find producers because of their almost autism) and artists, with great imaginative worlds, to emerge. there will be probably a lot of garbages among all the footages but from the chaos will rise some very talented guys and girls.
 
delaro said:
same for movies: most of the people who are shooting movies for decades are very talented to speak and to find some producers to give them money but it doesn t mean they are talented artistically. now that people can shoot easily they will become more clever about video and cinema, more criticals. and it will permit to a lot of shy videasts (who would never find producers because of their almost autism) and artists, with great imaginative worlds, to emerge. there will be probably a lot of garbages among all the footages but from the chaos will rise some very talented guys and girls.
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That's the strength of the film as an "art form" and not only as an industry, until the last decades.
 
I agree about what you're saying, but what disappears with this development is film being a trade. Someone had to be technician to handle celluloid or HD compared now to people taking their HD camera for the holidays for the heck of it! The profession of filmmaking fades with it.
I'm complaining now, being very hypothetical, but it might happen
 
delaro said:
(...)guys and girls.
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Mon cher ou ma chère Delaro(? - ce n'est pas important!), this detail only in the free Europe...

jochem said:
I agree about what you're saying, but what disappears with this development is film being a trade. Someone had to be technician to handle celluloid or HD compared now to people taking their HD camera for the holidays for the heck of it! The profession of filmmaking fades with it.
I'm complaining now, being very hypothetical, but it might happen
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The same to you... You are both european citizens (unquestionable! and my pride :thumbsup: jochem, do you understand me, now?)
 
jochem said:
I agree about what you're saying, but what disappears with this development is film being a trade. Someone had to be technician to handle celluloid or HD compared now to people taking their HD camera for the holidays for the heck of it! The profession of filmmaking fades with it.
I'm complaining now, being very hypothetical, but it might happen
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i m sure you re wrong about that. before the invention of photography, painting was used to freeze the present, to remember the faces of the ancesters, ...., as a camera do now. when the first camera appears, a lot of people predict the end of painting. but, in fact, it was the biggest revolution painting has never had. because people realize that painting not only permits to copy reality but than you can go abstract. and what was going next, we all know: modern art. and after that, contemporary art. and painters never disapeard. there will always be some people to go forward. to create new ways of using a medium. so there will allways be technicians, it s just that they will probably not do the same kind of job as now.
 
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