The Treasonist

Interesting idea. I think most of the technical problems have been covered already. I think your actor did a pretty good job.

Definetely needed more motion. On your next film perhaps consider blocking the scenes. Have your actors walk around and interact with the set, props, etc... This will help bring it to life. Use the foreground and background to give it some dimension. If you have the time, rehearse both the actors and the camera movement before hand like a play, and it should go smoothly.

For inspiration, check out the scene in Raiders where Indy packs his bags and Brody tries to warn him of the dangers. Great blocking - one continuous take.

Keep making movies! :beer:
 
This one had an interesting story and good message. Lots of other production value comments have been made that I have to echo. It takes a lot for everything to come together to make a film. Every aspect, ie. framing, lighting, sound, blocking, etc. is crucial and has to become one entity. Each film we make teaches us how to become better visual storytellers.

That being said, I really thought your actor really pulled it off here. He definitely had the look, and his Spock-like delivery was convincing. Great job in getting the right feel on screen.

While watching The Treasonist I could sense that this is a film is a beginining on the path of an emerging filmmaker. I see great things ahead. Keep making movies. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.:beer:
 
WayneB said:
We are going to continue our efforts. So thanks again for your help.
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And there in lies the key!!! Bravo, Wayne.

Can't wait to see more from you. I too am steadily getting better at the craft, and will always have miles and miles to go. Glad to have you on the same route.

k
 
Maximus said:
Interesting idea. I think most of the technical problems have been covered already. I think your actor did a pretty good job.

Definetely needed more motion. On your next film perhaps consider blocking the scenes. Have your actors walk around and interact with the set, props, etc... This will help bring it to life. Use the foreground and background to give it some dimension. If you have the time, rehearse both the actors and the camera movement before hand like a play, and it should go smoothly.

For inspiration, check out the scene in Raiders where Indy packs his bags and Brody tries to warn him of the dangers. Great blocking - one continuous take.

Keep making movies! :beer:
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Max,

Thank you for your encouragement. We will continue. While we haven't had our evaluation meeting yet we do have a lot to think about and resolve, thanks to DVXUsers like yourself. We also meet tommorrow on our way to Los Angeles and the DV Expo.

I will watch the scene from Raiders. All good advice and we appreciate all of it.

Wayne Beck
 
Richie White said:
This one had an interesting story and good message. Lots of other production value comments have been made that I have to echo. It takes a lot for everything to come together to make a film. Every aspect, ie. framing, lighting, sound, blocking, etc. is crucial and has to become one entity. Each film we make teaches us how to become better visual storytellers.

That being said, I really thought your actor really pulled it off here. He definitely had the look, and his Spock-like delivery was convincing. Great job in getting the right feel on screen.

While watching The Treasonist I could sense that this is a film is a beginining on the path of an emerging filmmaker. I see great things ahead. Keep making movies. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.:beer:
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Richie,

Your encouragement is greatly apprciated. We will continue to develop our skills through trial and error and I apprciate the advice, tips, and insights you and other DVXUsers have offered.

I too thought Andy Bishop excelled, as stated in another thread, however we hung him out to dry. I will not do that again, or at least without making every effort to support acting talent with more creative ideas with visual, music, sounds and mixing. Leaving it to post is an absolutely BAD IDEA!!

Thanks,

Wayne Beck
 
Kyle Stebbins said:
And there in lies the key!!! Bravo, Wayne.

Can't wait to see more from you. I too am steadily getting better at the craft, and will always have miles and miles to go. Glad to have you on the same route.

k
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k (Kyle)

We are not discouraged. But the light has been put on our issues, thank you, thank you, TY, TY

Wayne Beck
 
While I think your actor pulled it off fine, I thought that this script was really dialog heavy. Too heavy for my tastes, it seems like the whole story is told through dialog. I would have liked to see a little action in there. Just my 2 cents.
 
John LaBonney said:
While I think your actor pulled it off fine, I thought that this script was really dialog heavy. Too heavy for my tastes, it seems like the whole story is told through dialog. I would have liked to see a little action in there. Just my 2 cents.
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John,

You are right, we had no idea what we were doing. But thanks to your good will and that of our other DVXUsers friends we are getting a better handle on it.

So consider your 2-cents worth far more than you might think.

Thanks for taking the time to talk with us, we appreciate the input from someone who has shown in his own work that he knows of what he speaks. We aspire to higher levels of production and product.

Wayne Beck
 
Simple and effective. there are some issues, but My film had them too. I enjoyed it and the actor was spot on and thought it was well written.
 
filthrich said:
Simple and effective. there are some issues, but My film had them too. I enjoyed it and the actor was spot on and thought it was well written.
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Filthrich,

Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed it. Andy Bishop was good wasn't he, and RB Beck wrote it well. Adam and I just didn't have the right stuff, but we will do our best to develop it.

Again thanks for taking the time to share with us,

Wayne Beck
 
I too got lost in the talking heads. Not gonna belabor whats already been said. I thought the photography in general was pretty good, and few good B roll shots.
 
Dick Campbell said:
I too got lost in the talking heads. Not gonna belabor whats already been said. I thought the photography in general was pretty good, and few good B roll shots.
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Hey Dick,

Thanks for watching and commenting on The Treasonist. Appreciate your input, we needed some cut aways to supporting elements during the long talks. We are beginning to understand a little more thanks to comments suchs as yours and others. Looking forward to the next one.

Wayne Beck
 
interesting idea.

like one of my flicks, you used "twins"! the acting was okay too, i mean, aliens can act as anything i suppose. move them around though, get em walking and doing things while they talk to each other. also the script is way too preachy and talky. on and on and on they go, better to show things, show the more human alien interact with his family, flashback if you have to, or explain where the treason occured, show where the more human alien became expendable. what happened exactly? what did he not do? in this you might be able to show how the alien became amenable to us, mortals, and in how the alien might also have willingly incorporated a human trait. my two cents...

good work! keep filming!!!
 
hoz,

When you are right you are right, and you were right on. I mentioned to someone in an earlier thread that Adam and I left Andy out to dry on this one. We have promised ourselves that won't happen again. We had tech issues as well and we need to do something about them too.

However, the bright side is that people we have never met before are taking the time to view and then comment on our effort, and you all have impacted us in a very positive way. Your comment and others have given us some very useful information from which we think we are going to benefit greatly. We will be back and with a better product. Thanks.

Wayne Beck
 
WayneB...the actor did a good job and I liked what you did with some of the shots, especially the last one. The issues have been mentioned already. I think you did a good job and it's good to have you in the fest. Keep 'em coming!
 
Brian,

Thanks for your comments. The two-shot was a bear to rotoscope because the camera was struggling with something which caused the image to fluctuate in size during the whole course of the first shot of the two-shot. Un beknown to us of course. But when it came time to do the rotoscoping there was hell to pay. That explains why it bounces around and the dithering on the shoulders. We think we have it figured out, the Camera's mode, so it doesn't happn again.

We plan on doing more. Thanks for your encouragement.

Wayne Beck
 
Hey, nice intellectual exercise. I dig the circular loop the missions have come to. I also dig the line about lying to the human race about what's beyond the milky way. Imaginative. I think this is an example where the ideas in the script out do the ability to really show any of it. So the script is left describing these fantastical ideas. That's a road block I've hit many times. But it was the intellect that kept me interested in the piece. I thought it got a little over the top with the triumphant nature of the human race bit, but it wasn't a hinder to enjoying the flick. Technical issues sure, but we're not pros here and others have touched on 'em. Keep up the story telling ambition!
 
Bryce,
Thanks for viewing and then commenting. You are the only one to mention the loop so I'm glad someone saw it.

Also you have touched on something I hadn't thought of before. I guess we need to be able to shot what might be included in the script. If its another world then its a model, painting, animation, or a long trip wth a camera.

Thnks,

Wayne
 
SparkyZa said:
Very cool story...love the SciFi!
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Thanks Sparky. Yes, the story was good, however, we didn't do justice to shooting and editing. First time, so we will continue trying. Hope we do the next shoot better. I'm thinking we will thanks to all the insights we have gained from this festival and all the comments from some very nice and helpful members.

Thanks again,

Wayne Beck
 
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