The final week (Status Report)

My CRT is wayyy darker than my LCD. Even with my CRT's brightness all the way up and the LCD all the way down, there is still a huge discrepency. I hate it.
 
the "standard" gamma adjustment for computer viewing is .7 gamma.

when outputting through Compressor in FCP just click the gamma filter and adjust it to .7 you may want to go to the contrast filter and ad just a hair

render the brightest part and the darkest part (or the whole thing if you have a speedy computer)

if its pretty decent -- go with it -- because GenJerDan is right, there's a ton of varience out there -- but like I said the "standard" adjustment is .7 gamma (unless its .07 -- but try both and it will be obvious) I've also gone with .8 and .9 depending on how crushed the blacks already are.
 
some guy before the last contest posted that number - it's .7, but depending on how contrasty or not the source video that can be washed out - I thing I've used .8 alot

the adjustment just deals in general with computer monitors being a little darke than TV's (and pc's darker than mac) so the percent adjustment should be standard

In FCP the gamma slider goes from 0 - 4 and defaults to 1 with 1 being no correction. But G Filma and Magic Bullet use very differently demarked gamma sliders so no telling how it is for PC's -- but seems like general idea is you want to brighten the gamma 10 - 30 percent ... so on FCP, that means .7 , .8, or .9 of a neutral 1

I can't remember which I used for Shed, but I wen to Kinko's so I could see it on a PC monitor as well.
 
I went around to a TV, and four different PC monitors, and two laptops, and it looked good, and approx. the same on all systems, so I'm happy.
 
your doomed ... DOOMED I TELL YOU !!

just joking -

look forward to seeing your headache free, easy to shoot, easy to edit, easy to CC, completely hickup free, done early production :evil:

you must have been touched by and angel ... or at least a priest :cheesy:
 
jdanstan said:
your doomed ... DOOMED I TELL YOU !!

just joking -

look forward to seeing your headache free, easy to shoot, easy to edit, easy to CC, completely hickup free, done early production :evil:

you must have been touched by and angel ... or at least a priest :cheesy:
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Or I just did a really lousy job! No, it's pretty cool. And, it wasn't totally stress free. We spent a lot of time on it. The reason is went "smooth" is because I had a small crew, and cast, and they all were 100% behind the project (AKA on time, etc.) and I planned everything way ahead.
 
Now you're all confusing me with the FCP gamma stuff. :grin:

That must be some sort of program adjustment without any direct connection to the "real world". General, PC system have a gamma of 2.2 and Apple has 1.8 (which is supposedly closer to NTSC than PC stuff).

Then, as noted, LCDs are a helluva lot different from CRTs.

But my main concern is the personal settings people use, no matter what system they're on. MY monitors are normally all set pretty dark and contrasty, since my vision ain't what it used to me.

Then there are the media player settings...which are diddleable...and throw everything even further from the "truth".

I think the viewers should just be aware that none of the entrants made a conscious decision for their films to look like crap, so...if they do...try adjusting the monitor until it looks better. :)
 
GenJerDan said:
I think the viewers should just be aware that none of the entrants made a conscious decision for their films to look like crap, so...if they do...try adjusting the monitor until it looks better. :)
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Now I like that idea Gen :grin:

Of course, if I understand all the rules and submission guidelines right, we really don't have much control over what the internet version will look like, since we'll be submitting the DVD version and the conversion is being done at Jarred's end... right? I considered the gamma adjustment thing, but then I don't want the film to look like utter garbage on people DVD Players & TVs (though it might anyway... HAHA!)
 
I ran into the same problem.Edited everything on another computer (crt) and it looked good UNTIL I played it back on my moms 21 monitor ( crt ) on it looked way too dark .. (this is the same monitor as I did my Zombie on) , so I used it to change everything ..soo if mine is to bright ..turn it down a tad . It does look good on my OLD Sony 27" .

While out today doing on last scene ( RAIN & SNOW ) the temp dropped ..guess who wasn't wearing gloves . My fingers were SO cold the tips were NUMB , couldn't even feel the record button .
Sure glad this is over!! .
Ian
 
EditPhish said:
Now I like that idea Gen :grin:

Of course, if I understand all the rules and submission guidelines right, we really don't have much control over what the internet version will look like, since we'll be submitting the DVD version and the conversion is being done at Jarred's end... right? I considered the gamma adjustment thing, but then I don't want the film to look like utter garbage on people DVD Players & TVs (though it might anyway... HAHA!)
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well if its the same file for the DVD then all bets are off and yeah just do it so it looks good on TV

I was sort of hoping to gamma correct mine for the web and then use my charms to get jarred to to let me submit a TV coreected version if I made the DVD ... but that might be a no go depending on how many he's going to put on the DVD.

I can gaurantee you however that they are not going to be gamma correcting each movie or messing with them in anyway at all except to do one big universal batch conversion -- so if you want to take care of it on your end ... probably a good idea.

of course I'll have to think about this one file for both end products: web / DVD thing
 
Jarred Land said:
All films must be encoded to mpeg2 format, with a 8M average bitrate. These will be uploaded to the server, no sending in DVD's etc.

We will batch encode all films for the online viewing from the mpeg2 files.
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^That's what Jarred said -- and I understood that to mean one-file uploaded for both DVD and internet.
 
The amount of times I've been back and forth to various TVs today -- ha! I'm trying to err in the middle... find the happy medium. I think I've gotten close. Tomorrow I'll go to work and test out on various monitors and TVs there :)
 
check the sticky on submission requirments

its perfectlyt acceptable to submit one file for the DVD and another for web viewing

so you can submit your extended cut for the DVD or you can submit two diff CCed or Gamma corrected versions.
 
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