pathfinder
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Time will tell, ladies and gentlemen. For now, this just makes it an interesting and lively argument either way.
The death of DSLR?
- Thread starter yaounderespire
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Can't we all just get along? Why does it matter if which tech "kills" which? Every time a generation of tech dies, it usually means forward progress for the industry as a whole. That's a good thing. Everyone is using the best they can afford and doing the best you can. (hopefully)
In any case, no one is killing anyone right now. If you have a project that you're doing next week or even some time this month, guess what you're NOT shooting on? This goes back to the whole, love what you got, don't wait for the next big thing.... thing.
In any case, no one is killing anyone right now. If you have a project that you're doing next week or even some time this month, guess what you're NOT shooting on? This goes back to the whole, love what you got, don't wait for the next big thing.... thing.
Michael Carter
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Regarding audio - the issue isn't XLR - it's (a) a balanced system (3 pins vs. 2, regardless of connector - more pins for two channels) and (b) better quality pres and converters. Both of those would take up more space on an already cramped form factor. On the other hand, NikCan (err, (Can-kon) could conceivably make a video-centric body that uses SLR lenses. I doubt the ceonomy of scale is really there to keep it sub $1k, but who knows. I think when you hang out on a message board such as this it's easy to forget we don't really know how large a market we are. That is, who's in the market for $1 - $2k body that will never step up to a $3-$5k body? That said, a new DVX100b was about $2600.00 - I bought one myself.
As far as the DSLR limitations - yeah, it's all good unless your creative output needs a lot of keying or effects work. Keying this footage is tough, and you really need your act together with lighting, shooting and software to get even a reasonable key.
As far as the DSLR limitations - yeah, it's all good unless your creative output needs a lot of keying or effects work. Keying this footage is tough, and you really need your act together with lighting, shooting and software to get even a reasonable key.
Not sure if I agree with you on that. I have seen some good work out there and you can find some simple and informative threads on it over at cinema5D. Greenscreen is actually quite common over there.
Michael Carter
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"Seeing some good work" and actually doing good work are two different things. Yes, I've seen dozens of posts, sample footage and frame grabs of keys pulled with Canons and D90's - I find almost all of them are either pretty poor keys, or 20 frames in front of a JPEG that doesn't show the real challenges in a real-world situation. (And hey, just try to key D90 footage...)
Keep in mind I didn't say it's impossible, but that you really need your act together - even so, I just shot a music vid with multiple keyed shots, and it was tough getting keys I was happy with. I imagine something like an AF100 or even a less compressed hi-def video camera would do much better. But with the Canon footage, what should have been 1-click keys with minor tweaking were really difficult to get up to the standard I wanted. There may be some simple threads out there, but to get a really sweet key with Canon's compression is not a simple process, in my experience, unless it's a very simple shot or a hard object. On the other hand, learning to key that stuff will certainly up your game for when you are able to work with less compressed footage. But if I were quoting on a paid gig that demanded keying DSLR footage, I'd quote a lot of hours and no guarantees.
I posted more on that issue in this thread, with some frame grabs.
Here's a before & after example from a T2i, Nikon 28mm 2.8 lens, lit with daylight flo's:
