The Circle - deedive

first like to say thanx, for takin the time to watch and comment
At first, when it re-started, I was like 'Huh ? That's it?' But it was not it ! Genius !
thanx!

Technical comments:
I found the contrast off and wonder if this was a MAC/PC thing ? Was it a choice ? I think bringing the levels up (Using my Scopes as a guideline help it out a bit more:

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I tend to like low contrast, where the black bleeds. This was done on a mac and some PC people experience problems too, could be that.


f this was intentional, I think it really broke the rule hard and did not work at all.
wow, i didnt see it at all, now that i looked for what u said i see it. she walk screen right then 2 steps left. and the left make the screen right weird. I think if i cut before the switch it wont be hard. But i have to say it didnt bother me.



I loved that you stayed mainly with locked down shots but actually would have liked to have seen all of this way; the hand-held look tends to not mix well IMO. I see a lot of folks doing this; mixing hand-held and sticks. I don't know. It does not feel motivated, but lazy.
I definitely agree about not seeing alot of panning and titling in film. They are great when used properly.
To not appear lazy let me explain my idea about why i used handheld and sticks.
My original idea was to use flash or dvd technology to do this project but i though it could be done in quicktime too, but would be a little more difficult. "The circle" is basically me going circle crazy.lol I wanted the main character to walk in one big clockwise circle. when she tried to go back (against the circle) she only ends up restarting it. So i wanted the loop to have several loops within it. all shots are on stick, with a few tilts. there are 3 handheld shots. there is the one looking around the corner, at the front door. (i just couldnt do this shot without moving in my opinion) the other 2 major shots are shot in circles with a move at the end. i mistakenly thought i could shoot the whole thing in moving circles but i could not figure that out.
so....
in the original version the movie would start out with the superwide shot (sticks) on the bottom of page 11 (post 104), then cut to the washing of the dishes. aka title sequence also on page 11 (post 104) of this thread. then she would say trick or treat outside her door. the version of her inside would hear this, blah blah blah. but when it looped it would go back to the "trick or treat" line. like this version does. i try to put alot of stuff in that isnt nessesary apparent and to some extent not important at all. But they make it fun in the writing process. And it really fun when people catch it. maybe thats my problem, lol

that was my idea. for the good and bad of it :)

i was actually scared that the handheld rig would be way to shaky. so we shot the entire movie on sticks as well (just in case). I should edit that too, i will call it the hudson version. :)

thanx again for your comments and i hope this shines more light my what i was tryin do. If it worked. that depends on the person.
 
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You just rocked my world, Dale. Very clever -- reminded me of the Usher "My Confessions" album. But I guess what I liked most was the way it has your imprint all over it -- to me, it was very much a DeeDive film, and I love seeing the further development of -- and commitment to -- a specific aesthetic/style/vision/etc.
 
awww thanks deedive. The only other things I have right now are my short from last year 'Eddie Loves You' and a new short 'Vacuum' which is currently in festival submission status. Send me a Pm and I'll send you a copy of Eddie, if you like. But its nothing like halfway, just a bit of fun.

Dont take my comment as a bad thing, most people spend all their lives trying to find what interests them, you seem to have a knack of creatng really interesting pieces on this theme. I really look forward to seeing what you do next.
 
You just rocked my world, Dale. Very clever -- reminded me of the Usher "My Confessions" album. But I guess what I liked most was the way it has your imprint all over it -- to me, it was very much a DeeDive film, and I love seeing the further development of -- and commitment to -- a specific aesthetic/style/vision/etc.
thanx leslie. Never heard that album, i gotta take a listen. It was great workin with u on "Check". I learned alot from u and in general. Helped alot on this film


awww thanks deedive. The only other things I have right now are my short from last year 'Eddie Loves You' and a new short 'Vacuum' which is currently in festival submission status. Send me a Pm and I'll send you a copy of Eddie, if you like. But its nothing like halfway, just a bit of fun.

Dont take my comment as a bad thing, most people spend all their lives trying to find what interests them, you seem to have a knack of creatng really interesting pieces on this theme. I really look forward to seeing what you do next.

PM sent. look forward to seein your films. And i didnt take your comment as a bad thing, im the first to admit i like circular stories. Maybe with this film i will be all circled out. but probably not.:)
 
I loved this film.

Phenomenal style and pacing. I really liked the actress. The way it all loops is brilliant. So simple and yet so effective.

Extremely well done.
 
Deedive, did you think about going so far as to having her standing outside the door looking at the note, only to hear the bowl of candy drop on the other side of the door?

Maybe too much?

Mike
 
Deedive, did you think about going so far as to having her standing outside the door looking at the note, only to hear the bowl of candy drop on the other side of the door?

Maybe too much?

Mike

That would have implied overlap though .. the idea is that there isn't any, we jump right back in on her line.

- Mikko
 
That would have implied overlap though .. the idea is that there isn't any, we jump right back in on her line.

- Mikko
Yah, that's why I thought it might be too much. Might have made for a cool moment, but not for "the Circle".

I really do love this one, one of my favourites in the Fest for sure.

Cheers,

Mike
 
I loved this film.
Phenomenal style and pacing. I really liked the actress. The way it all loops is brilliant. So simple and yet so effective.
Extremely well done.
THANX DUDE.


Yah, that's why I thought it might be too much. Might have made for a cool moment, but not for "the Circle". I really do love this one, one of my favourites in the Fest for sure.

yours is one of my favorites too. Hopefully they will let u put my favorite banner back up.
 
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That would have implied overlap though .. the idea is that there isn't any, we jump right back in on her line.

- Mikko

right. I thought about this too and just brushed it off thinking it would be too hard to loop something like that. Unless the loop doesn't actually take place at the door but somewhere in the middle where you couldn't tell. That would have been more fascinating-where the "two" characters actually almost meet.....But there we must deal with space time continuum and it can be a headache.
 
That would have implied overlap though .. the idea is that there isn't any, we jump right back in on her line.

If she sees herself through the peep hole, does that not connote some overlap, if but for a split second? jk :D

Deedive, brilliant! You had me, infinitely, at "trick or treat". :thumbsup:
 
I was hoping when people realized this they would stop the loop. but i think most of the time it was when they saw the loop or got bored
 
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I am not sure of what you are saying, deedive?

My comment was not intend to pick a potential flaw. Glitches of some kind happen every day of my life, my matrix. IMO, this is the most brilliant entry of the fest, if you get what I am saying...
 
I'm not saying u where saying that at all. I tend to pick apart my films. Always very hard on my work. Don't take my comment that way. :D I'm glad you enjoyed it.
 
I see what you mean, deedive, thank you.

For me, and I am not suggesting that anyone should think like this, the most important part of picking apart a film is to analyse your own initial interpretation of the first viewing of a movie, as you can only experience that once, be it the the twist, the deception, what ever. After, analyse the movie as much as one likes, but I like to reflect on the initial impact it had on me as a gage of movies I like, especially clever ones, with some kind of twist.

Again, the impact of the first viewing and figuring out 'The Circle', that is what grabbed me with your flick. This may be difficult for you to do, as the film maker. :D
 
Great idea and nice execution too. I really dig the ambient music too. I was wondering if you could have done the background music as one long piece that looped as well but at a different point than the movie. So when you watch it for the first time you think that what you're hearing at 00:01 is the beginning of the song but actually it's the tail end of a piece that begins around 00:27 or so and loops. Since the music you're using has an ambient feel to it I bet it would lend itself to something like this without feeling jarring when it repeats.

It would make for another subtle hint to the circularity. I don't know if you think that would make the whole thing too overt.
 
Hey deedive,

I really dig this short. I like the whole concept overall. When she dropped the bowl of eyeballs, I flinched...when she went outside...I said don't go out there! Going down stairs...don't go do there! The surprise at the end was cool. Short and sweet. The sound was eerie and simple. Actress was good. I liked the peephole shot. The shots were simple and told the story. It did what it needed to do and got the heck out of there. Good job.

Laters,
Ando
 
Great idea and nice execution too. I really dig the ambient music too. I was wondering if you could have done the background music as one long piece that looped as well but at a different point than the movie. So when you watch it for the first time you think that what you're hearing at 00:01 is the beginning of the song but actually it's the tail end of a piece that begins around 00:27 or so and loops. Since the music you're using has an ambient feel to it I bet it would lend itself to something like this without feeling jarring when it repeats.

It would make for another subtle hint to the circularity. I don't know if you think that would make the whole thing too overt.

no, thats a cool idea:)

Hey deedive,

I really dig this short. I like the whole concept overall. When she dropped the bowl of eyeballs, I flinched...when she went outside...I said don't go out there! Going down stairs...don't go do there! The surprise at the end was cool. Short and sweet. The sound was eerie and simple. Actress was good. I liked the peephole shot. The shots were simple and told the story. It did what it needed to do and got the heck out of there. Good job.

Laters,
Ando

thanx, this film was made for viewers like u
 
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