The Canon R5C Owners Club

[liondor1969]

Hello, can someone help me with a color profile for R5C?
Possibly an improved version of wdr? I shoot weddings and I don't do color correction in editing. I want something that I can use directly from the camera..Thanks

 

[Clermond]

Hello, can someone help me with a color profile for R5C?
Possibly an improved version of wdr? I shoot weddings and I don't do color correction in editing. I want something that I can use directly from the camera..Thanks

Unfortunately I have no idea but in one of numerous facebook groups you might find an answer

 

[cpreston]

Hello, can someone help me with a color profile for R5C?
Possibly an improved version of wdr? I shoot weddings and I don't do color correction in editing. I want something that I can use directly from the camera..Thanks

Use WideDR if. you want a slightly low contrast and saturation look. Use "normal" if you want a regular production look. Use "Standard" if you want a high contrast and high saturation look that will make everything pop. Normal is probably what you are looking for although it is going to be difficult not to clip your highlights and blacks in an uncontrolled environment like a wedding.

 

[liondor1969]

Thanks,i use this camera just for video wedding..i tray to find a color profile too lock ok natural..is imposible to edit 3-5 hour SLOG 3 for wedding..i test Wide DR with matrix VIDEO..is ok..bunt not perfect..tx

 

[DustinSchmidt]

I'm curious...who here is shooting a MAJORITY of their work with the R5C in any of the raw codecs? (8k, super35 5.9k, super 16???). Or are you primarily using the 10bit 4k? I've used both at times, but I'm mostly shooting the 10bit 4k myself.

 

[Steel]

Not me! Just some shorter narrative projects where I know I don't have any sort of tight deadline. And this was to (maybe) match better with a raw-shooting C200. I actually haven't edited the two narrative pieces yet, so we'll see what happens!

Although having the 8K raw is/can be a great benefit, the downside is that it's 8K raw, and it can really destroy your system! I made the move to Apple silicon last year, but only with an M1 Mac Mini (1TB SSD, 16GB memory). I plan to move to something more powerful once I see what Apple has planned with the M2 Pro/MaxUltra.
The noise reduction that becomes fairly necessary when shooting raw completely annihilates this machine (as should be expected!) as it simply doesn't have the memory.
I suppose the nice thing about shooting raw with the S35 Canon sensors is that they're not 8K!
What was once a somewhat heavy 4K raw codec to edit on consumer machines at the time (2017) with the C200 has now become something much, much reasonable to shoot on a regular basis, both in terms of editing speed and storage requirements. The 5.9K R5C S35 raw is still pushing it a bit, but is still a hell of a lot better than the 8K.

All that to say no, I really haven't used it much at all. I'm in XF-AVC 10-bit 422 mode the vast majority of the time, and haven't even shot anything work related with the 264/265 codecs, either.

 

[Ty Harper]

The 5.9K R5C S35 raw is still pushing it a bit, but is still a hell of a lot better than the 8K.

I have a maxxed out M1 Mac Mini as well but haven't had the chance to try RAW so this is helpful to know. Have you tried the 2.9K RAW? And if so how manageable was it?

 

[Steel]

I have a maxxed out M1 Mac Mini as well but haven't had the chance to try RAW so this is helpful to know. Have you tried the 2.9K RAW? And if so how manageable was it?

Haven't really done anything with it, no.
I think I only tried messing around with some Moon shots with the Canon 800mm f/11 a little while back, but I'm not sure what I did with that footage! But as far as I know it should be pretty smooth.

 

[Liam Hall]

I'm curious...who here is shooting a MAJORITY of their work with the R5C in any of the raw codecs? (8k, super35 5.9k, super 16???). Or are you primarily using the 10bit 4k? I've used both at times, but I'm mostly shooting the 10bit 4k myself.

Mostly XF-AVC 10 bit 4K.

 

[Ty Harper]

Hey all,
Anyone know what if any IQ loss you get when shooting with R5C in 24p crop mode (5.6K) with the Canon .71x adapter and full frame EF glass vs shooting in full frame 4K?

 

[cpreston]

Hey all,
Anyone know what if any IQ loss you get when shooting with R5C in 24p crop mode (5.6K) with the Canon .71x adapter and full frame EF glass vs shooting in full frame 4K?

I did a test to see if I could see a different shooting in 4K with an ef-s lens in cropped mode vs a full frame lens in full frame mode. I was mostly testing to see if I would see a significant loos in IQ if I used my 18-135 stm lens on a gimbal. My conclusion was that the the oversampled crop mode has just as much detail as the full frame mode in 4K. The noise pattern, however, isn't as nice. As to using the .71x adapter, I don't know what kind of distortion that would add, but I would guess that it isn't going to be noticeable in real world filming.

 

[DustinSchmidt]

I used my R5C to shoot a little spec ad. The goal was to see what it could handle image wise, more so than trying to make it my A cam on a real production. But I have to say I was pleased with how the images came out and purely from a visuals standpoint, it holds up pretty well.





Shot mostly (90%) in the 8k raw, some 4k 5.9k raw and even a little super16 2.9k raw to take advantage of the increase in the angle of view. I recorded a bit of a breakdown of it all here:

https://youtu.be/5YVjFBMyFCI

 

[jcadge]

Nice demo piece, looks like a high budgeted spot, your daughter did a great job. My only comment is an editorial comment, I wouldn't open with the hero shot, it gives the spot away. Try opening with an exterior suburban sunrise, save the hero shot for the end.

 

[DustinSchmidt]

Nice demo piece, looks like a high budgeted spot, your daughter did a great job. My only comment is an editorial comment, I wouldn't open with the hero shot, it gives the spot away. Try opening with an exterior suburban sunrise, save the hero shot for the end.

Thanks for the feedback! It was a fun project to make.

 

[lacuna]

I did a test to see if I could see a different shooting in 4K with an ef-s lens in cropped mode vs a full frame lens in full frame mode. I was mostly testing to see if I would see a significant loos in IQ if I used my 18-135 stm lens on a gimbal. My conclusion was that the the oversampled crop mode has just as much detail as the full frame mode in 4K. The noise pattern, however, isn't as nice. As to using the .71x adapter, I don't know what kind of distortion that would add, but I would guess that it isn't going to be noticeable in real world filming.

Yep, I concur, there’s no appreciable resolution loss but there is a jump in noise artefacts.

I also have the C70 and use the .71x adaptor a lot. In real world shooting it’s fine. No appreciable resolution loss and minimal distortion. However, if you pixel peep it does introduce noticeable green and purple CA on high contrast lines.

 

[sugoroku]

Hello!

I am wondering if any of you know what is ProRes recording option using Ninja V with R5C. I know it can record ProRes Raw but I am thinking about recording ProRes 4:2:2 4K 60P for the upcoming shoot as a back up.

is it possible?

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[NorBro]

Specs say the camera outputs 4K/60p 10-bit 4:2:2 via HDMI so then, yes, it's possible. [And the device has different ProRes flavors.]

 

[sugoroku]

Hi NorBro

Thank you for your comment. You seem to always answer whenever I post questions in this community.

it is good to know people are trying to help.

I will try capturing video and let you know this actually works. Though I would not know how to confirm the captured footage is indeed 10bit 4:2:2.

Is there a way?

 

[NorBro]

thank you yeah, so, it will definitely work (like as far as capturing video via HDMI into a V), but confirming it's actually 10-bit 4:2:2 is another step. (Also use a fast SSD...most decent ones today will handle 4K/60p PR HQ but some older ones will drop frames until you lower the PR to 422 or LT. And also make sure the feed is clean; you don't want to record the camera information that's on the screen.)

Your NLE should tell you it's ProRes and some may also say that it's 10-bit 4:2:2 (or 12-bit for PR 444), but you can also check in apps like 'Media Info' (that's the one I like) and cycle through the different modes and see what it says. https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

On a related note, this is actually something I've always said/thought about...that we trust our cameras to provide us certain specs but we don't exactly know what's going on. Like even with the applications; one might read ProRes on a recorded external file and assume it's 10-bit but did the camera actually output 10-bit? You know?

Per usual the good ole eye test does the trick. If the footage looks good, grades good, I'm good.

 

[Ty Harper]

Hey all,
There's a theory being discussed on an R5C forum I'm on that the camera might have an audio limiter similar to what the C70 and other cams in the C-line have - with the caveat being that you can't turn it on/off on the R5C. It seems to make sense given some of the behavior I've seen when pushing the gain up on the R5C. To be clear, the internal sound coming out of the R5C is the best I've heard from a cam with the DSLR form-factor. In fact it took me a minute to realize I no longer needed the traditional work arounds to minimize the internal preamps. But I'm wondering whether anyone here might have thoughts, musings about this?

Either way I just thought I'd mention as I know one owner in particular is in the process of getting confirmation from Canon themselves.