Jim Brennan
VHS Member Old Skool
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you know, you can learn a little from everybody. having worked on the behind the scenes docs for Transformers, I was forced to watch hours of footage of Michael Bay doing his thing and you know what... he is the most efficient director I've ever seen at work. he comes on set "hot" -- meaning he keeps everyone prepped so he can start shooting as soon as he arrives (and will throw a tantrum if he can't). he also surrounds himself with a team that has worked with him since his early advertising days. lately, a key person he's struggled to keep with him is a DP. Mauro Fiore (The Island), for example, publicly declared never to work with him again because of the way he treats his crew.It's funny how very few filmmakers cause such ire in discussion; De Palma, Tarantino, Spielberg, Kubrick, Lynch and even little Michael Bay.
Love em or hate em, one can't deny their impact in cinema.
Can't deal with that shi*e.
I wonder how long his career will go with that temperment.
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JR I can relate to you man, I've never been a fan of Tarantino. Yeah sure his films are great...if you haven't seen the exact camera angles and stroy plots he's ripped off just to make money off of. Damn it really just pisses me off that there's unique and interesting ideas out there and yet htis guy is going around flaunting this stuff like it's his own idea!
Then why comment in here ? You'e being insulting DeSica with these undercurrent statements.
Your dismissive tone is what is concerning me here. The same spin can be said from the other point of view of the fans perspective.
Pulp is still genius, but it hasn't held up for me over a decade later like I thought it would. But, it was the first movie that kept me up all night thinking about it.
also, my favorite Bay quote, said to a lowly crew member he was kicking off his set, "Get the f*ck out of my imaginary world!!!!!!"
He did make it cooler for North American audiences...there is no swearing or talk of sex in HK cinema...it is taboo. Violence, on the other hand....I watched City on Fire and thought it felt like a Made For TV movie. If anything, Tarantino made it better. Who even heard of that film until the Dogs revelation ?
I know what your spin is. How can something that has already been done be fresh with nobody else doing it? It is new for those unfamiliar with orginal stuff, yes...and the spin he puts on it is bang on for North American audiences.My spin is that he is cut from a certain cloth of filmmaker which I find to be fresh when no one else is doing it. I like his style and welcome it. It is a rare style to see when everything else looks the same.
Huh? Godard, Polanski, Leconte, Tornatore, Bertolucci, Almodovar, Leigh, Apted, Frears, Eastwood, Ritchie (if he ever dumps that tart), Nolan, von Trier, Weir, Coen Bros., Allen, P.T.Anderson, Mann, Scorsese, Malick, Jewison, Arcand, Cuaron, Bigas Luna....there are plenty steeped in technique, ...and art, and history, and culture...It reminds me of De Palma being ragged on about being too much like Hitch back in the day; there aint enough filmmakers working that are steeped in technique.
Sure, I know what you mean. What I was talking about was just taking an existing thing and adding your own touches...do you consider the Magnifient Seven to be original? I see it as a westernised Hollywood remake...and a great film.I don't know. I've written songs that were hummed with others in my head. Paintings have been painted as direct tributes and styles to others, books have been spawned off existsing material. It's an art cycle.
Truffaut, Coppola, Scorcese...that's steak. Jackie Brown is steak..some of his other stuff is more like a Big Mac...not your best piece of beef, but still yummy.:shocked: Huh ?
No, really? That goes without saying, and there is nothing wrong with that at all. You're also a moderator, but nobody minds when you let your personal opinions mix in...you make your points well, and you know what you like.I'm probably the biggest Tarantino fan on this board,
So then you get my point...I'm a fan of Tarantino, but I have no illusions that it means I am on to something.but a quick Google search shows he is super popular. My point is made even better with those comments, I'm glad there are some here that don't like his work like I do, cause I can't identify with the crap they do like. That was my point in case you missed it.
These guys are not really similar at all, and he isn't in a league with any of them....at least I don't think he is, not quite.It goes back to the cloth. He cuts from it in much the same way as De Palma, like Scorsese and Spielberg's cinematic vernacular, they're operating off of the same table.
I don't...I point it out, and you had to have read it when I did, as you have read a few of my posts saying as much. Roger Avary had something to do with some of that dialogue, and QT wasn't always quick to admit it...and now they aren't really buddies anymore. Whether you believe Avary when he says QT sucks off him like a sponge is a whole other matter. Either way, QT writes good, catchy, stay with you dialogue.He's a great filmmaker who writes some of the best dialogue heard. Some director's are known for certain styles; Burton and his twisted setdesign styles, Gilliam and his crazy imagination, Lynch .....
Why discount a trademark ?
I was merely pointing out how the same guys seem to divide into the same camps...and the die hard Tarantino fans take it all personally.Then why comment in here ? You'e being insulting DeSica with these undercurrent statements.
There is no dismissive tone. I'm sorry you took it that way. My post was not meant to be like your "Yaaawwnnn."Your dismissive tone is what is concerning me here. The same spin can be said from the other point of view of the fans perspective.
He did make it cooler for North American audiences...there is no swearing or talk of sex in HK cinema...it is taboo. Violence, on the other hand....
The only people who would have heard of it are world cinema fans who watch HK cinema...RD is a great little "remake", or what have you. I enjoyed it, and I own it on DVD.
I know what your spin is. How can something that has already been done be fresh with nobody else doing it? It is new for those unfamiliar with orginal stuff, yes...and the spin he puts on it is bang on for North American audiences.
I saw Pulp Fiction in Havana my third or fourth time seeing it...they didn't get much of it, trust me.
Huh? Godard, Polanski, Leconte, Tornatore, Bertolucci, Almodovar, Leigh, Apted, Frears, Eastwood, Ritchie (if he ever dumps that tart), Nolan, von Trier, Weir, Coen Bros., Allen, P.T.Anderson, Mann, Scorsese, Malick, Jewison, Arcand, Cuaron, Bigas Luna....there are plenty steeped in technique, ...and art, and history, and culture...
Sure, I know what you mean. What I was talking about was just taking an existing thing and adding your own touches...do you consider the Magnifient Seven to be original? I see it as a westernised Hollywood remake...and a great film.
I guess imitation does happen unconciously sometimes, after all, The Rolling Stones swear they never realised they copied Constant Craving by KD Lang when they wrote Has Anybody Seen My Baby...but they are pretty much the same song
Truffaut, Coppola, Scorcese...that's steak. Jackie Brown is steak..some of his other stuff is more like a Big Mac...not your best piece of beef, but still yummy.
So then you get my point...I'm a fan of Tarantino, but I have no illusions that it means I am on to something.
Of course he is super popular...his stuff is for the masses. It is heavily teen and young 20-something targeted and marketed...I've discussed this with a VP of marketing for a huge film company. I know plenty of guys in their 40s who like him..and when you ask about influences, or point out source material, they couldn't care less. They don't care about film or cinema...they just want to have fun watching a movie and be entertained. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
These guys are not really similar at all, and he isn't in a league with any of them....at least I don't think he is, not quite.
I don't...I point it out, and you had to have read it when I did, as you have read a few of my posts saying as much. Roger Avary had something to do with some of that dialogue, and QT wasn't always quick to admit it...and now they aren't really buddies anymore. Whether you believe Avary when he says QT sucks off him like a sponge is a whole other matter. Either way, QT writes good, catchy, stay with you dialogue.
I was merely pointing out how the same guys seem to divide into the same camps...and the die hard Tarantino fans take it all personally.
Some people are too quick to dismiss the guy altogether...and it is not exactly fair. Other guys will defend anything he does no matter what...which is just as bad, in my opinion.
There is no dismissive tone. I'm sorry you took it that way. My post was not meant to be like your "Yaaawwnnn."
Truffaut, Coppola, Scorcese...that's steak. Jackie Brown is steak..some of his other stuff is more like a Big Mac...not your best piece of beef, but still yummy.
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Tarantino is the fillet of the crime genre.