Tarantino's "tributes"

Yeah... if you couldn't figure out he was borrowing stuff, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Now, go watch more tv and get caught up on your history.
 
Wait, you mean he actually copies other filmmakers?

Meesagonnadie?

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I am not sure where this Love / Hate phenomenon started in relationship to Tarantino. Is it his coolness inbedded in his films that sets off the ire ? Is it the homage so prevalent ?

Was the score selections in the Kill Bill films such a mystery ? I know I recognized most of them upon my first viewing. Maybe he should use some Emo songs instead of his usual eclectic choices. Today's filmmakers all shoot from the same manual. They all use proven techniques and methods to tell their stories.

Tarantino's love of the craft is so evident in every frame of film he shoots. I am constantly reminded of this when I watch the usual mediocrity the vast majority of other filmmakers employ.

Watching The Mist recently, Darabont apparently called in the crew from THE SHIELD to shoot some scenes (the ever annoying Snap Zoom exagerrated hand-held technique that has infested the medium and taken the visual langauge away from the artist) and it shows. I found it very distracting and typically trendy. Why would Frank use this technique ? Was he copying or simply using a method ?

I can always go back to Citizen Kane to make my point.

I don't know. I'm kind of glad to not see everyone liking Quentin's work. It must mean I'm onto something.
 
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I do have to say I'm a little jealous of the people (re)discovering this kind of stuff...I still fondly remember finding out the films that influenced Lucas/Star Wars which led me to Kurosawa...seeing 2001 led me to Solaris(1972) and Tarkovsky and the list goes on and on.

Think of all the films that were influenced by le samourai, le cercle rouge, rififi etc. and what were they influenced by or just plain copied? All waiting to be discovered...again.

I guess I think its fun when people find this stuff out...its not necessarily because they are the "arrogant" youth, maybe they haven't yet discovered the fun of research, or completely ignored a genre (I recently became interested in Norman Wisdom comedies because one was shown on TMC).

RJS
 
J.R. Hudson said:
...I'm kind of glad to not see everyone liking his work. It must mean I'm onto something.
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Yeah, I start to get nervous when I like something everyone else does...as a matter of fact if the "mainstream" says I should see something I pretty much skip it...course, how could anyone not like "Singin in the Rain"...
 
That is a great post RJS.

The Star Wars / Hidden Fortress observation is a great example.

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I recall Spielberg stating the entire Truck sequence in Raider's of the Lost Ark was a direct tribute (homage) to 1939's Stagecoach (Yakima Canutt’s famous stunt-sequence).
 
RJS said:
Yeah, I start to get nervous when I like something everyone else does...as a matter of fact if the "mainstream" says I should see something I pretty much skip it...course, how could anyone not like "Singin in the Rain"...
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Reminds me of the recent thread on the films of the year. The Top 20 Grossing films were all white bread bullshit; harmless, uninspiring, forgettable.
 
J.R. Hudson said:
I'm kind of glad to not see everyone liking Quentin's work. It must mean I'm onto something.
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Unless they are talking about his newer stuff, then maybe they are onto something. :grin:


Like I always say, in the end, all that matters is the final execution. Sure Tarantino borrowed/copied a bunch of crap, but he made some great films. So what is the big deal?
 
Zak Forsman said:
i don't think he intended the link to be a chronologically backwards one. I discovered Solaris (and Tarkovsky) the same way, as I'm sure many cinephiles have, due to it's old rep as "Russia's answer to 2001".
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That's what I read as well.

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Kubrick and Barry Lyndon. Many of the shots in that film are a direct reference of famous classical paintings.

Damn copycat hacker.
 
jpeck said:
Unless they are talking about his newer stuff, then maybe they are onto something. :grin:


Like I always say, in the end, all that matters is the final execution. Sure Tarantino borrowed/copied a bunch of crap, but he made some great films. So what is the big deal?
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I can see that

But his intent was announced from the get go. Kill Bill 1 and 2 ? A pure tribute to Hong Cinema and Spagehtti Westerns. Deathproof ? A direct tribute to the films of that era.

I don't recall that ever being a mystery.

Jesus, everytime I start talking about Quentin I get mad that Inglorious Bastards is so far away.
 
J.R. Hudson said:
Jesus, everytime I start talking about Quentin I get mad that Inglorious Bastards is so far away.
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I really want to see it, but I can't help but wonder if it will also be a tribute film. The plot synopses I've read sounds a lot like the Dirty Dozen. I'm sure that he was influenced by the war films of the 60's and 70's like TDD, The Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far, and Where Eagles Dare.

Will there be a scene with hand grenades going down a vent pipe?
 
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