Ben_B
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It's a brand new camera, so by definition there aren't threads exactly like this one. Calm down. You do realize when you post here it bumps the thread back up to the top?
T3i vs GH1
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It's a brand new camera, so by definition there aren't threads exactly like this one. Calm down. You do realize when you post here it bumps the thread back up to the top?
bronxjragon
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I thought magic lantern on the T2i was really, really unstable, according to their website?
bronxjragon
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A bit off topic, but does the GH2's low light rival the lowlight of 5dM2? thanks
roxics
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Thank you for all the info. You answered all my questions.
Aside from some out door under overcast sky shots, none. You got me there. I have no doubt this GH1 can produce brilliant stills under the right lighting conditions. No doubt at all.
I think it's purely psychological. I just came off of using a Nikon D7000. I much preferred its larger grip, reflex mirror and 1600 ISO street photos that looked like ISO 200. But I can't expect this to perform like a D7000. I knew that going into it. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around the EVF and sound of the shutter. I feel like I'm using a toy camera.
Ben_B
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Does it rival? Yes it rivals. Is it better? No. But it is damn good.
adammada
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yes!!!!!!!!!
Ben_B
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Multiaspect sensor means that for video mode it has almost identical crop factor to the Canons. Form factor is superior for video (EVF, articulated LCD, touch screen, dedicated video controls, programmable function buttons.) Actually being able to have the camera held to your eye in a normal shooting style when shooting video without having to buy an external finder that puts the camera way out in front of you is great...so I'd say it wins the formfactor thing here. Plus, IMO it has a superior button layout. Build quality is just fine, and much improved in the GH2, about the same as any entry level DSLR. As for the lower resolution of the LCD screen, this is just one of three monitoring options, it also has a very very high resolution EVF, which exceeds the LCD resolution in the Canons, and it has HD live HDMI out, vs SD on (most) of the Canons, and doesn't blank out for an eternity when you hit record.
Lifeforeva. I've been a Canon fan boy for a long time, but the t3i is the straw that broke the camels back. I mean.... the Canons are using 4 year old tech. The 720p is basically un-usable and with the canons you basically cannot film anyone wearing a striped shirt without a crazy pattern going through it. This has gone on since the release of the last 1D in 2007! That is a really long time ago in tech.
I'm actually going to be getting a GH2 now. I was hoping by some miracle that Cannon would do the right thing and actually compete with the T3i, but that's obviously isn't going to happen. They're just going to keep milking it and I feel lame giving my money to a company that does that.
Believe me, I want to stay with Canon, but the cameras short comings are just becoming to great when compared to the GH2. I really want to be able to shoot slow motion.
If the Moire is fixed, I probably will get a 5D mark 3, but until then, Canon has lost me and probably quite a few others.
I'm actually going to be getting a GH2 now. I was hoping by some miracle that Cannon would do the right thing and actually compete with the T3i, but that's obviously isn't going to happen. They're just going to keep milking it and I feel lame giving my money to a company that does that.
Believe me, I want to stay with Canon, but the cameras short comings are just becoming to great when compared to the GH2. I really want to be able to shoot slow motion.
If the Moire is fixed, I probably will get a 5D mark 3, but until then, Canon has lost me and probably quite a few others.
Hi life4eva -- I have to disagree -- I guess I'm "jumping ship", because I am not using my Canon anymore. And, now that Canon has announced the T3i, I'm looking to unload my T2i before the price plummets too far. For me, Canon moire/aliasing and limited shot length (and the old, clunky mirror) are deal-breakers. On the other hand, I am very happy with the images from my GH2, even if some people consider it a "toy". ;-).
This, I agree with wholeheartedly. We will all choose the camera that works best for us personally. For some of us, that will be mirror-box DSLRs and for some of us that will be mirrorless. Bottom line is that there are great stories being shot on both.
BigBearDoinThangs
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gh2 records far more real resolution, and is a better VIDEO camera in general with more options but still photos any canon is better than it.
Rory_B
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Why not just keep the t2i and use it for stills? I have found the Gh2 to be awesome as a video camera, but sadly lacking in the stills department in comparison to any Canon I've used. You can illicit good results from the gh2(With a lot of fine tuning and work), but at least for me I'm not a fan of the still quality.
Good in bright daylight, very so-so under mixed lighting or lowlight for available light photography.
And I'm talking about with a fast lens, not the slow-ass kit lens.
Timbit
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I found a test chart comparing the 60D, D7000, 50D, and GH2 for noise in photos, and at the low ISOs they were pretty identical, but as they got higher and higher, the GH2 went muddy and off-colour. Having said that, video from the GH2 that I've seen is amazing!
Since I'm looking for an all-in-one camera like our OP, Canon seems to be the one with the best features so far. Yes I'd love a camera that didn't have moire/aliasing problems, but if one lets that stop them completely from buying one, and not learning to work around the problem, you don't learn as much I feel.
Since I'm looking for an all-in-one camera like our OP, Canon seems to be the one with the best features so far. Yes I'd love a camera that didn't have moire/aliasing problems, but if one lets that stop them completely from buying one, and not learning to work around the problem, you don't learn as much I feel.
Ben_B
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Yeah the stills are sometimes disappointing but I've had much better luck with it than the GH1, especially for long exposures which got quite noisy on the GH1 even with long exposure noise reduction.
Here's a still I took with GH2 (jpeg not RAW) at night with a slow shutter (wouldn't call it a long exposure necessarily.)
3.2 second exposure, wide open f/1.7 with the 20mm f/1.7, ISO 800.
There's definitely some icky noise in there but it's partially because of post work but yeah...still takes good photos, just maybe not the best...although the GH2 IMO takes the best photos of any of the m4/3rds cameras...
Jester2138
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There is not much extra crop - maybe 0.2 if anything (1.6 on the 7D vs. 1.8 on the GH2).
It probably is, which means it should be fairly easy to adjust. Like learning a new NLE after your first time.
The GH2 is so obviously superior to all other DSLR's and 4/3 cameras that are out right now there's really not much point in debating it.
ROCKMORE
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I had a 550D for 10 months and made money with it, sold it and got a 60D. Although the same resolution it has a far better control set up. The B&H list price is $799 for the T3i and $899 for the 60D.
Your best move was getting the used deal on the GH1. Since it's not an emergency, I'd wait for the next generation of processors. If you gotta have it today the 60D is a way better camera for an extra hundred bucks.