T3i vs GH1
- Thread starter roxics
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Its hilarious ,every time new cam comes a thread must appear on forums titled - new cam VS gh1/RED/5D.
So.. video or film shooting ?documentary or pre-planned shots.
People dont know what you need so its hard to answer such question.
I dislike gh-1 because sensor is a bit smaller than canons.
So.. video or film shooting ?documentary or pre-planned shots.
People dont know what you need so its hard to answer such question.
I dislike gh-1 because sensor is a bit smaller than canons.
roxics
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It's all in good fun my friend. 
I just picked up a GH1 for $375 so I've been playing with that the last couple of days. But the still photo quality has me thinking about pickup up a Canon to go with with.
I was just wondering what the video quality would be like. If the video quality and video shooting ergonomics are as good as the GH1 I could probably give my GH1 to my girlfriend and just use the T3i myself.
I just picked up a GH1 for $375 so I've been playing with that the last couple of days. But the still photo quality has me thinking about pickup up a Canon to go with with. I was just wondering what the video quality would be like. If the video quality and video shooting ergonomics are as good as the GH1 I could probably give my GH1 to my girlfriend and just use the T3i myself.
Well as far as I know the t3i is not out yet. Secondly I learned film making has much more to do than a camera alone. Reason I say this is, I have seen great footage shot with a gh1 and t2i and poor as well.
I think all of these cameras are at a level where technique, story telling, framing, color, etc. are what really is going to set someone apart. Keep your Gh1 and keep learning
I think all of these cameras are at a level where technique, story telling, framing, color, etc. are what really is going to set someone apart. Keep your Gh1 and keep learning
roxics
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Well as far as I know the t3i is not out yet. Secondly I learned film making has much more to do than a camera alone. Reason I say this is, I have seen great footage shot with a gh1 and t2i and poor as well.
I think all of these cameras are at a level where technique, story telling, framing, color, etc. are what really is going to set someone apart. Keep your Gh1 and keep learning
I do this for a living and I've been shooting indie films for 15 years so I really don't need the generic "it's not about the camera" speech. Sorry not trying to sound offensive. I've just heard and given that speech countless times on the internet for the last decade. It's become the easy way out answer. Lets just assume we all know it now and talk about the technical nuts and bolts of the cameras.
Jarrett P. Morgan
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I would say that, if you can live without a swivel screen, get a second-hand T2i with Magic Lantern. Right now it is the most feature-filled DSLR on the market.
Now, if you really want the swivel screen, I would say go for the 60D. Its build quality is alot better and there is already work being done on a version of Magic Lantern for it.
We have no idea how long it will be on the T3i, or if it will have similar constraints as the 7D does and not allow the hack at all.
Now, if you really want the swivel screen, I would say go for the 60D. Its build quality is alot better and there is already work being done on a version of Magic Lantern for it.
We have no idea how long it will be on the T3i, or if it will have similar constraints as the 7D does and not allow the hack at all.
roxics
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Listen I'm not trying to be offensive like I said. So I'm sorry to come off that way. There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it without coming off that way.
The techniques are old and the cameras are new. What I mean by that is, I can know lighting and I can know directing and I can know how to shoot. None of that has really changed and as you said most of that is more important than the camera itself. But I don't have a lot of experience shooting with these HDSLR's. They all seem to be a little different. So I want to discuss the differences.
roxics
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No I can't live without the swivel screen. It's too embedded into my work ethic from using regular video cameras. That's the only reason I'm even looking at the T3i right now.
I've been eyeballing the 60D and it seems like a nice camera. Even though it's only $300 more that's quite a bit more. I'm trying to stay as cheap as possible since this is for my own personal hobby stuff.
Like I said I picked up the GH1 a couple days ago for that awesome $375 deal to use as a personal hobby camera. It's nice and I'll either keep it for long events or give it to my girlfriend and borrow it when needed. I'm just not so thrilled at how small it is in my hand or the lack of fast AF lenses. So I was considering picking up a 60D but the price was a little much. Then I woke up this morning to discover there is a new rebel with a swivel screen and wireless flash triggering.
bronxjragon
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What? There's something called the GH2 out and its featured are STACKED. Heck, even the GH1/GH13 features are stacked when comparing with the T2i. I'm sure the T2i is an amazing little camera and I was eyeballing it to complement my GH13, but I wouldn't say it is the most feature-filled DSLR on the market right now shoulders above every other DSLR. Of course, if you are being literal and disregarding the GH13 as a m4/3 rather than a DSLR, then you are correct.
T3i has the same sensor as the 7D, t2i, and 60d. No new technology there, so why not just search one of the million "Which should I buy?" threads. I feel like the questions you're bringing up here are literally asked every single day in other threads. With 15 years experience I'm guessing the deciding difference between any camera will be the small specific stuff, so maybe it'd be better to rent a 7D and futz around with it for a day instead of asking a question that's been beyond driven into the ground at this point.
maranfilms
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Im pretty sure he's thinking the t2i with magic lantern, offers the most features. At least in it's price range.
Honestly, the T3i is just another series of really DISAPPOINTING cameras from Canon. The Digic 4 came out in 2007 (4 years ago), and Canon is still using the SAME line skipping technology which produced horrible aliasing and moire. Canon is just milking it and producing mediocre products.
The GH2 is SO MUCH BETTER for video. Nice clean, moire free image and useable slow motion. And this is coming from, me, a Canon fan-boy. If you are going to buy a camera for video, go Panasonic. The moire on the Canon's start to drive you insane after a while.
This is a very honest article on Canon and the 600D, and how disappointing they are.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/540-Canon-600D-one-small-step-for-Canon-one-giant-leap-for-nobody
Canon does have much better lens options than the GH2 which is the only thing saving it. It makes me sad, because I love Canon lenses, but for video, the cameras are so far behind the GH2 now, and falling further behind with every release. Canon doesn't want to compete anymore, only to milk what they have.
The GH2 is SO MUCH BETTER for video. Nice clean, moire free image and useable slow motion. And this is coming from, me, a Canon fan-boy. If you are going to buy a camera for video, go Panasonic. The moire on the Canon's start to drive you insane after a while.
This is a very honest article on Canon and the 600D, and how disappointing they are.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/540-Canon-600D-one-small-step-for-Canon-one-giant-leap-for-nobody
Canon does have much better lens options than the GH2 which is the only thing saving it. It makes me sad, because I love Canon lenses, but for video, the cameras are so far behind the GH2 now, and falling further behind with every release. Canon doesn't want to compete anymore, only to milk what they have.
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Jarrett P. Morgan
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Yes, I was. With the zebra strips, histogram, waveform, audio features, Qscale, and a larger sensor....
Now, I haven't actually had a chance to use a GH2 yet, but, within the cameras I have used (save for the RED, that is a different range altogether) my favorite is the T2i with magic Lantern.
roxics
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Lol Guess so.
If you're going to take the time to reply with a paragraph how about just answering the question instead of complaining. Is the T3i better in lower light than the GH1?
roxics
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not concerned about the GH2. For one, it's too difficult to find. Second I just got my GH1 in the mail two days ago I'm I'm a little disappointed in the small size, lack of pro AF lenses and the "feel" of shooting still photos. It's nice for video and it was a steal of a deal, which is why I bought it. So this is really just a question of comparison between the stock GH1 and the T31 in terms to video quality and ergonomics.
I'm still looking for that unicorn camera that does great stills and video with good lens choices and ergonomics (swivel screen). I'm not happy yet. The D7000 was too much a still camera and not enough video and the GH1 is too much a video camera and not enough stills. So next I'm looking at the T3i and maybe the 60D but I don't want to spend that much. That was another reason I got rid of the D7000, it was too much money for a hobby camera.
Ben_B
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Yes. Not better than GH2 though (maybe similar.)
T3i:
Better stills
Better lowlight
Codec won't break up with lots of camera movement on areas of high detail
GH1:
Higher resolved resolution video
Less moiré and aliasing
Electronic view finder
Better microphones (same crappy auto gain control)
Auto-focus during video (faster AFS and an AFC option.)
More lens support.
T3i or GH2 might be your goldilocks camera. The video on the T3i isn't as good as GH2 but it'll still look nice, and it doesn't have nearly as many video features. Stills on Gh2 might not be as good as T2i but they'll still look nice.
What glass have you been using on GH1? Until you've used a m4/3rds camera with the 20mm f/1.7 you haven't used a m4/3rds camera
Because it's been answered a hundred times already elsewhere and idiotic new threads like this clog the board on a daily basis from people too lazy/entitled to take the 30 seconds to search. That is why I didn't answer your question.
Welp, looks like someone gave in and rewarded Roxic's laziness. See you guys tomorrow, when somebody else starts this same exact thread!
Welp, looks like someone gave in and rewarded Roxic's laziness. See you guys tomorrow, when somebody else starts this same exact thread!
Ben_B
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GH2:
Live histogram
100 IRE zebras
Live audio levels feedback while recording
Audio level control while not
Better internal microphones and higher quality audio recording (48Khz 16)
Articulated LCD screen
High resolution EVF that works in video
1:1 telephoto crop mode (brilliant feature)
Touchscreen (don't laugh, you'll end up using this a ton, very fast way to move AF points and zoom for manual focus)
More programmable function buttons (3)
Auto-focus during video (fast AFS or AFC)
More video recording options
More custom dial modes (3)
Similar excellent low-light performance.
More ISO options.
Greater range of lens support (including support for all PL mount lenses without the modifications necessary on Canon, and support for things like C-mount lenses.)
High Definition HDMI out while recording.
and of course
Higher resolved resolution in video
Much less aliasing
Nearly non-existent moiré
In any case, I think it's safe to say which is the most full video featured hybrid system camera on the market. Panasonic's second generation is here. Where's Canon's?
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