Super Compact Atmos Ninja-Star Recorder : $295

I didn't compare the two but the D5200 doesn't have the banding issue like the Nex 5n just fixed pattern noise. ProRes 422HQ is certainly better for grading than AVCHD or H.264 but 4444 is better again still. Really depends on your needs.
 
...and the battery is the common Sony L series type battery found on many Sony cameras (DV, HDV, NX) & other accessories.
 
Totally escapes me why they'd build a great and cheap recorder that uses media sooo expensive. Why didn't they use extreme pro sd cards ?

....ah, you know like the same ones we use on our cameras . Seems like a dumb decision to me.
 
...or maybe the CFast to SD converter card linked earlier will work just fine.

CFast 1.0 (vs über expensive 2.0) isn't that unreasonably priced. They likely just spec'd that for reliability
 
The other question is why did they decide to go without some kind of micro HDMI cable lock. If they had just recessed the micro hdmi ports and put some kind of screw lockdown it would't have added that much of a cost to the thing. Now the way it is with constant use that micro hdmi connector will get abused and we'll get the dreaded recording issues.

Maybe something like lock circles hdmiport lock will work with this.

If weight is not an issue maybe going with the the full blown shogun is a better cost effective solution as it has full size hdmi ports, sdi , works with cheaper ssd's or hard drives, and is future proofed a bit more.
 
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kurth said:
Totally escapes me why they'd build a great and cheap recorder that uses media sooo expensive.
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Because the CFast format is going to get a whole lot cheaper and popular as more devices start using it.

I remember how expensive SDXC memory cards were when they first came out, and now they are between 1/2 to 1/4 of that original selling price.
 
Since when is 1080p60 "full" HD?

IMHO, I kinda hate that term "full HD." It's like saying 720 is isn't real HD. ATSC specs state there are really only two HD flavors, 720p60 & 1080i60 (30fps 60 interlaced fields). Both of those have close to the same number of pixels per 1/60th of a second (1280x720=920,000 vs 1920x540=1,120,000). 1080i60 is better for higher resolution, 720p60 is better for fluid motion.

1080p60 is the best* of both, and I would call it something like HD advanced, or HD2.0, but I wouldn't say anything less than 1080p60 wasn't HD.


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*best - I think this is subjective, as I think there is often a little bit of magic with 24p or 30p, especially at certain shutter rates. I do most of my work (event / corporate) at 30p with a shutter of 1/30 or 1/60, which still has a "video" look, but better than interlaced. When I see footage at 60p it just punches me in the face of video. Not as much as when I see something in interlaced, oh mercy, does shooting in interlaced these days... just makes me almost sick to my stomach... but still working in 30p 95% of the time, 60p is a - bam... wow - that's different.

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Because the CFast format is going to get a whole lot cheaper and popular as more devices start using it.
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Yeah, I remember when the Ninja first came out, 64GB SSD drives were $100 on sale. You can now get 240GB for that price.

Since the Star only needs 1.0 CFast cards & you can get a 120GB for $350ish at Amazon, I'm pretty sure we''ll see some 240GB Cfast cards for $100 in a few years. And by then we'll probably have a Ninja Star 2.0 (1080p60) or Shogun Star (4k).
 
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On the interface they show a 60i ---> 24p conversion LED, so this might have you covered.
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Talk to Atomos tech and he confirmed that the guts of the star is basically the same as the ninja 2 with out video & touch screen etc... so based on that it would appear that you are correct in that it does do the pull down of the hdmi stream output from the FS100.
 
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