Sony RX10 with 24-200mm constant f2.8 zoom and 1" sensor !

TheDingo said:
especially if the lens turns out to be parfocal.
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check those videos, he does a zoom in, stays in focus, seems the zoom action is nice and smooth, but if the bit of studder he has at one point is any indicator, it might take some practice to tame it. the multi port supports some remote zoom controllers, but not much info on them
 
DR depnds on the picture profile used.
The sensor has 12.4 stops of DR, accroding to dxomark (same sensor as RX100m2). Baked DR is probably around 8-8.5 stops, depending on profile parameters, which is typical DR for a standard transfer curve. Sony photo cameras usually feature both contrast controls and DRO controls for curve manipulation.
 
well looks like it's stale until launch unless sony releases some test samples in the wild. i'm so oddly attracted to this camera, need to stop constantly checking for updates on it.

in the meantime, i put in a feature request for them to bump up the bitrate. couldn't hurt.
 
I saw the videos. Nothing to read from them. Come on, the guy is even using auto-exposure, it changes as he pans to brighter and darker areas. Does your video look much better if you use auto-everything and crank up contrast in camera?
 
Darren Levine said:
a bold statement. i'm inclined to hope...
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From Andrew Reid's article...

Thankfully the fixed lens is a very good one, with a constant F2.8 aperture. It is almost too sharp and you can invoke some moire at times, on a similar level to the GH3. But I think for what this camera offers in terms of the lens, built in ND, XLR add-on and form factor it is very good value for a money and a genuinely capable replacement for a pro video camcorder like the Canon XF105 in all but AF speed and the less capable AVCHD codec.
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And in the immediately preceeding paragraph, he says:
In terms of image quality from the sensor in video mode, the RX10 leads with the cleanest resolution. Detail is insane, thanks to the full pixel readout on the 1″ sensor.
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So overall the promise lives another day!
 
Having never worked with Sony cameras, I'm curious about what level of control over the image the RX10 allows. I'm used to being able to set gamma, knee, master pedestal, sharpening, etc. in order to dial-in the image the best that I can. I presume that this cam will just have a collection of baked-in picture profiles to chose from and that's it?
 
Wesley Byram said:
Having never worked with Sony cameras, I'm curious about what level of control over the image the RX10 allows. I'm used to being able to set gamma, knee, master pedestal, sharpening, etc. in order to dial-in the image the best that I can. I presume that this cam will just have a collection of baked-in picture profiles to chose from and that's it?
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i'd leave out those very video-camera like expectations. there has yet to be a stills camera, regardless how video-capable any may have been, to have such controls.

expect typical photo camera controls in picture profiles. at most you'll get sharpness, contrast, color tone, saturation. if they went further than that it would break a trend and make plenty of us happy, but i'd leave it off your plate of expectations.
 
I figured as much. On the other hand, I've read in a few places that the GX7 allows you to customize the gamma curve in camera by dragging control points around on the touch screen. That would probably be just as good, if not better than the usual camcorder settings of knee, master ped, etc. It'd be nice if the RX10 had something similar, though I don't expect it.
 
If it is like the NEX-5N, it will definitely have that much control over the image. You get a few picture profiles (with Portrait being the best in good lighting -better DR, beautiful skin tones- and Neutral for low light because Portrait gets noisy a lot sooner), and a very limited set of sliders: sharpness, contrast, saturation, and DR-enhancement, which can screw up your image if you rise it too much.
My settings for the 5N, and some graphs of what that DRO slider can do.
So: there's not a lot of control, but there's a way to get a very nice image. Just wish I could revive some highlights and bring up some of those completely-crushed shadows somehow: the sensor has a lot more to offer than what the video mode is recording.
 
Would love to see what the RX10 does when coupled with a BM HyperDeck Shuttle. For the total spend, that might be a killer small rig for a lot of applications.
 
The point of the chart is to put all the camera-lens combinations on the same optically equivalent basis, so you can compare them. This chart shows that the RX10 will have the greatest light-gathering capability above 70mm equivalent focal length (and also be capable of having the shallowest depth of field). And it's less than 1 stop off the best camera-lens combinations from 28mm to 60mm equivalent. It's a very useful way to compare optically equivalent camera-lens combinations. The chart would be more useful if it included better competition, like the GH3 with the 12-35mm f2.8 and 35-100mm f2.8.
 
In any case, f/8-equivalent won't impress anyone, I think...

The chart would indeed have to show better competition. Like: my lens set is f/2.8 from 24mm to 180mm (all full frame primes).
 
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