Sony F3 motion blur
- Thread starter Twickers Mcgee
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ok i got it to work in VLC.
IT looks like you havent turned the physical "shutter" switch to "on". it looks like 1/24th a second 360degree shutter.
below the ND switches, is the SHutter switch. Make sure its on. My camera displays no such artifacts.
Do you see weird motion blur here?
IT looks like you havent turned the physical "shutter" switch to "on". it looks like 1/24th a second 360degree shutter.
below the ND switches, is the SHutter switch. Make sure its on. My camera displays no such artifacts.
Do you see weird motion blur here?
Douglas Villalba
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No, I have always use my real name even forums where it's customary to use usernames.
I had seen and congratulated you on your video before. I can see motion blur but since I don't see the full resolution it is not as obvious. I understand 24p motion, but my camera and a whole bunch of other people see it to. They say that it is even worst on the FS100 'cause you see more stutter than blur.
If you read this whole thread, you will notice that I asked Twicker the same questions you are asking me now when he started this thread.
The video I attached the link to I shot at 174 degrees because at 180 I was getting banding from my chinese fluorescents. I know it looks like the shutter is of but trust me I know the difference.
I had seen and congratulated you on your video before. I can see motion blur but since I don't see the full resolution it is not as obvious. I understand 24p motion, but my camera and a whole bunch of other people see it to. They say that it is even worst on the FS100 'cause you see more stutter than blur.
If you read this whole thread, you will notice that I asked Twicker the same questions you are asking me now when he started this thread.
The video I attached the link to I shot at 174 degrees because at 180 I was getting banding from my chinese fluorescents. I know it looks like the shutter is of but trust me I know the difference.
Ahhhh....
Out of curiosity, try to shoot a sample clip under tungsten, then again under the flickering florescent.
Perhaps the flouro flicker is disrupting the frame. IE its multi exposing the frame, and adding pulses to the motion blur, there by disrupting the impression of motion. The only things that effect motion blur, are shutter speed, and its relationship to framerate.
IF the shutter is open for 1/48th a second, it will look mostly the same on any camera. There is something else going on here. XDcam, HDV and (perhaps AVC) are long gop, so perhaps we are seeing a compression scheme. If it does this to KIpro, then there is a problem with either camera settings, or some lighting situation.
Twickers, what kind of lights were you using?
Out of curiosity, try to shoot a sample clip under tungsten, then again under the flickering florescent.
Perhaps the flouro flicker is disrupting the frame. IE its multi exposing the frame, and adding pulses to the motion blur, there by disrupting the impression of motion. The only things that effect motion blur, are shutter speed, and its relationship to framerate.
IF the shutter is open for 1/48th a second, it will look mostly the same on any camera. There is something else going on here. XDcam, HDV and (perhaps AVC) are long gop, so perhaps we are seeing a compression scheme. If it does this to KIpro, then there is a problem with either camera settings, or some lighting situation.
Twickers, what kind of lights were you using?
Douglas Villalba
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Could be the fluorescent lights. I know that twicker's was also fluorescents.
Here is a test I just finished doing outside my house. I didn't have anyone to model for me, but you can see the different frame rates.
More details in Vimeo and you can download a better resolution h.264.
EDIT: Original recorded with the KiPro Mini ProRes HQ @ 720/59.94 and converted to 23.97 in Cinema Tools.
First clip Shutter at 180 degrees and second clip at 45 degrees.
The day was cloudy but not raining. I used the water hose to spray an oak tree in front of my house to simulate rain for this shutter test.
Here is a test I just finished doing outside my house. I didn't have anyone to model for me, but you can see the different frame rates.
EDIT: Original recorded with the KiPro Mini ProRes HQ @ 720/59.94 and converted to 23.97 in Cinema Tools.
First clip Shutter at 180 degrees and second clip at 45 degrees.
The day was cloudy but not raining. I used the water hose to spray an oak tree in front of my house to simulate rain for this shutter test.
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Looks perfect.
@ what seems to be 180 degrees the space between the blurs of the water is equal to the length of its motion blur. Just what it should be.
The second frame rate, what im guessing to be 45degrees, looks appropriate as well.
@ what seems to be 180 degrees the space between the blurs of the water is equal to the length of its motion blur. Just what it should be.
The second frame rate, what im guessing to be 45degrees, looks appropriate as well.