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Abel in Burbank is doing a Sony Fx9 intro tomorrow October 1, 2019.
Sony announces FX9 4K camcorder with 6K fullframe sensor
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I guess it depends where and what you shoot. A typical interior set - fake/real windows excluded - is what, 4-6 stops max? You can easily set up your knee to handle it on pretty much any camera $1,500 and up. Outdoors, it'd make more sense to use two Pocket6K and edit the footage.
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4-6 stops exactly. We never used to use knee in studio setups. You would design lighting setups that would not push the camera levels to the point of having to compress highlights. Choose the optimum aperture you want to work with and light to that while watching that your peak levels didn't push above the white texture reflectance values of 95 IRE. Then just tweak the gamma curves on the wide side studio cameras to compensate for the fact that they were shooting across the lighting grid to a degree and not directly down the light path of the main grid key lights.
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Between an used AMIRA and a new Sony FX9 what would you choose guys ?
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Canonrumors is saying the C300 III is an S35 version of the C500 II, which I think makes sense. I am guessing that Canon would like CRL to become one of the standard raw formats and will include it in all of their cinema cameras going forward.
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Identical, but with a S35mm sensor seems about the only thing they could do spec-wise, that would squeeze in comfortably between the current C300ii, and the C500ii.
4k @ 60fps, internal raw and 10-bit 4:2:2, the same sensor tech and economies of scale from doubling down on the single body design and components. At $10k, nobody's feelings would be hurt, and you'd have perfect A and B cams.
Joshua Milligan
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The FX9. A camera like that is built for every day use for numerous types of projects. It can be right at home shooting a doc one day, a short film the next, a cable commercial the following day, and an event the day after that. It's the cameraman's camera.
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Obviously, the Amira is a better image and build.
The Sony is still cheaper and it will be new. The Amira’s go for $12K or much more with 4000hrs and unknown history, and no warranty?
Also, the Sony has FF35 and 6K sensor, and dual iso that makenit a bit more swiss army knife.
That said, if someone were to give me one of the two for free, i’d take the Amira, even with 4000hrs. Paying for it? I’d choose the Fx9.
You described things both cams can do
I’m in that exact situation. I asked for the Amira. My co workers shouldered it with a 17-120 and said now way. Now my dreams are over. Not that I’ll scoff at the FX9, but I love what the Amira does.
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What do you define as the gigging space?
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So sad! Sorry to hear that! The Amira package sounded like a level up!
Yeah. Now that the dust has settled there are things to like over the Amira. Mainly because technology has come so far, things like dual iso and advancements in AF are a big deal. I doubt I’ll have much use for AF but definitely will for the dual iso. We’re still planning on the 17-120, so the full frame will only matter for use with primes in sit downs, otherwise it won’t see much use. The skin tone argument isn’t near as bad as it once was with the new Sony colors. So while it is a much cheaper camera, tech has come a really long way and it has some really useful features which weren’t an option back when the Amira was new.
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That is so true.
As much as i think Aleviii is still the best image, the dual gain image can make skin look a little like clay sometimes. So, it isn’t perfect. I think F35 shooters tend to see that in Alexa footage. The F35 has one of the best tone curves straight out of camera.
So, i may have missed this, but are you guys going with Fx9?
As much as i think Aleviii is still the best image, the dual gain image can make skin look a little like clay sometimes. So, it isn’t perfect. I think F35 shooters tend to see that in Alexa footage. The F35 has one of the best tone curves straight out of camera.
So, i may have missed this, but are you guys going with Fx9?
They could probably do higher FPS ... but probably won't.
In general, I sense a little panic - maybe a lot of panic - among the Japanese manufacturers. New smartphones are eating into their consumer sales big time and the executives pretty much have to toss the kitchen sink in every market niche. FX9 actually holds the fort pretty well with its 6K-into-4K in-camera mode, XAVC and XQD cards but Canon will likely stick with CFexpress and 6K CRL. It also wouldn't hurt to have a new sensor on top of that. Business as usual may not cut it in 2020.
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The FX9 without a doubt.
Been holding on to the FS700/Odyssey7Q combo for so long now.
What I was waiting for was a new sensor, full frame, the AF of the A7/9 cameras and IBIS. The FX9 has almost all of those. Saying almost until I know how well the gyro-meta data stabilisation will work and if it will be supported in FCPX.
I have the FX9 on pre-order. There’s just a few niggling things about it:
1) The Size. Especially if I find myself wanting/needing raw output in the future. Only expensive gimbals fit the FX9.
Would have preferred the rumoured FX6. But who knows when that will come and what it’ll be like.
2) 50/60p is cropped. I have hope this will be addressed in the future though, but that’s far from certain.
3) Need extension unit for raw output. Expensive and makes camera larger.
Other than that it’s basically the perfect camera for me.