Sony A7 Mark IV and Sony A7s Mark IV rumored specifications Read more: https://photo
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And the year before that when rumors were saying that the A7SIII would be released any minute now...
Only when shooting 4K 60p, which is a Super35 crop. ( you also have the option of shooting almost all frame rates/CODECs in FF or Super35 )
Three-four grand between A7III and FS-5 is too big of a gap to really matter.
As I had mentioned yesterday visavis 1D XMKIII, that is one example where the feature set/performance can cannibalize the sales of the similarly priced cine style models such as C200 or even C500 MKII.* But that's because 1D XMKIII is loaded.
*OK, 1D XMKIII is not really in the C500 MKII range or class. Still 5.9K Raw w/DPAF is a pretty impressive feat for $6,500 in 2020.
puredrifting
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DSLR form factor gives me nightmares though. Shot an Ultra Marathon last Spring, on the road in Florida for a week with just two X-T3s. No thanks. They worked just fine but in the ultimate run & gun situation, in and out of the support vehicles every five minutes, ever changing sun so constant juggling of ND filters and just the awkwardness of handholding the cage rig with a bunch of crap hanging off of it, that solidified it for me, mirrorless DSLRs are for gimbal or lock off but for running around in extreme conditions, a 1DX MKIII would pale in comparison to the C200.
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But the FS5 doesn't shoot 4K 10-bit, only 4K 8-bit.
You have to move up to the FS7 Mk2 to shoot 4k 10-bit. ( the Mk1 is now discontinued )
So the difference is $7,000 between the A7III and the FS7 Mk2, enough to buy a total of 4.5 A7III cameras.
As long as you can live with the 30 minute single clip limit. ( I shoot long form live events from time to time, so a 30 minute cut-off would not work for me )
Which means you have to rig it ... which creates its own set of problems, naturally. But everything has some form of a trade-off.
In any case, as we're talking about 8-bit vs. 10-bit and 4K vs. 5K, some Samsung Galaxy 20 specs are leaking. Including the branding. The outgoing model was 10 but the new one did not go up to 11. That's right. It's loudest smartphone in the world because it goes up to 20. The top model will also have a 108 MPX main camera, another with a 10x zoom and 8K video. Well, Samsung does have a bunch of 8K sets to sell. The official reveal is on February, 11.
And the lines to the photo-video stores have just gotten a lot shorter. Lots of parking available.
Bassman2003
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Now I can see a smart phone-TV connection...
puredrifting
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Yeah, that's what I've done with the X-T3. Cage, battery grip, side handle, top handle, cable clamp, mic on top, Shinobi monitor.
The weight isn't bad but ergonomically, ugh.
Then again, rigging the C200 for shoulder mounted shooting is no joy either. Just bought
the Zacuto top plate and Recoil handle, will eventually pick up the Axis Mini Mount and will try the C200 EVF Loupe thing.
I'd rather get the Kameleon or Graticle but I find it's easier to utilize the LCD because of it's camera control buttons and joystick.
Contrary to trends, I still shoot with my C200 quite a bit shoulder mounted. Shoulder mounting gives me shots that are difficult to get cradled, although vice versa.
Samuel H
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The new a7 bodies are still nowhere to be seen, but the Xperia 1 II that was announced today does 2k 10-bit 120fps and 4k 60fps, so I really can't imagine Sony keeping the a7 line 8-bit only, the next models must do 4k 60fps with a 10-bit codec.
I see a lot of influence going the other way: the new phone takes 20fps stills, with exposure and AF calculations working at 60fps as they do on the a9, and it has dual pixel PDAF with eye-detect for humans and animals.
And there's a pro version with HDMI-in so you can use it as a field monitor.
I see a lot of influence going the other way: the new phone takes 20fps stills, with exposure and AF calculations working at 60fps as they do on the a9, and it has dual pixel PDAF with eye-detect for humans and animals.
And there's a pro version with HDMI-in so you can use it as a field monitor.
But the pixel count is pretty low for photos - only 12 MPX. Which is strange because Sony makes IMX 686, a 64 MPX sensor for others.
Of course, there's a possibility that 12 MPX is a quad-Bayer CFA that goes up to 48 but I have not seen it mentioned in any releases so far.
And while 4K is good, Samsung's latest is 8K, with both companies pricing their higher end models very close to one another. And Samsung is clearly marketing its offerings as 108 MPX and 8K.
I find the above quite curious. Sony ships more sensors. Samsung ships way more phones.
Of course, there's a possibility that 12 MPX is a quad-Bayer CFA that goes up to 48 but I have not seen it mentioned in any releases so far.
And while 4K is good, Samsung's latest is 8K, with both companies pricing their higher end models very close to one another. And Samsung is clearly marketing its offerings as 108 MPX and 8K.
I find the above quite curious. Sony ships more sensors. Samsung ships way more phones.
Jaime Valles
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Bingo. I need to be able to record over 2 hours of continuous footage. If the 1DX Mark III didn't have the 30 minute video recording limit, I would have already ordered two of them.
Samuel H
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12 Mpix is plenty for a phone, and in any case the spec I always look for in phones is sensor size. This one is 1/1.7", so I think pics are going to look great.
It's nice to see them not obsessing over resolution: I don't need 8k for anything, but I definitely want 4k 60fps, even on a phone.
12 MP is reasonable for the FB/IG type photos but Samsung offers a lot more for the same price (at worst, it's the same neighborhood). Plus, Sony lacks zoom, so if it is trying to climb out of the cellphone cellar, it's doing it the wrong way.
It's 2020. It's like a car manufacturer trying to offer a luxury model with a 180 hp engine, a 3-speed automatic transmission, live rear axle and the torsion-bar suspension. It might be a decent enough ride but no one is going to buy it.
It's 2020. It's like a car manufacturer trying to offer a luxury model with a 180 hp engine, a 3-speed automatic transmission, live rear axle and the torsion-bar suspension. It might be a decent enough ride but no one is going to buy it.
So, no new Sony products on the horizon, except recently released 20mm prime.
One would think that exciting new models help in a declining industry. CIPA just put out the January numbers and they're 19% off 2019, projecting to somewhere around 6.5 million total units shipped in the ILC market for 2020.
One would think that exciting new models help in a declining industry. CIPA just put out the January numbers and they're 19% off 2019, projecting to somewhere around 6.5 million total units shipped in the ILC market for 2020.
Samuel H
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They may claim supply chain issues are slowing down announcements and shipments, but everybody else is pushing forward and they are not. Fuji just announced the XT-4, which is their second generation of 4k60 10-bit <$2k bodies. Panasonic has had 4k 10-bit since what feels like forever (the GH4 only had it when recording externally, but that's a 2014 model). Meanwhile, Sony has fallen on the Canon bandwagon: big market share because they were great at some point, and basically no improvement for years, which makes many demanding customers go elsewhere.
Personally, I've bought four Sony bodies in the last six years, but right now I don't use Sony for video, because it's so far behind what my p4k can offer.
Personally, I've bought four Sony bodies in the last six years, but right now I don't use Sony for video, because it's so far behind what my p4k can offer.