FS7: Sony 85mm G Master f/1.4 getting high praise

Okay, let's forget the Sony GM 85mm in any terms of comparison to the Milvus or Otus.

In terms of comparison to the Canon EF L 85mm, it looks like a nice alternative. You get an iris ring and what is said to be delicious bokeh and stunning IQ. And the fly-by-wire focus is reported to be far superior to that of Sony's previous fly-by-wire systems. Also reporting of very little flaring. And no need for any EF adapter- something that eliminates any potential issues with flaring from a metabones adapter. I'm trying to be more open-minded towards native e-mount glass. If you want to go native e-mount in the Zeiss line of recent offerings you have to step down to the Batis or the Loxia.
 
Yes I'm a bit surprised they haven't made the Milvus and Otus range in native versions, but Loxia and Batis both have a load of things going for them.

I tend to really dislike Canon L glass for some reason. Possibly because at the height of 5DMk2 fever everyone's films looked identical because they were all shot on identical gear aping an identical style.

In terms of electronic lenses for me it was Sigma with the 18-35 and then the rest of their art range that really showed a new way and new look for stills glass. If sony's relationship with Zeiss extends getting access to their coatings and the like then it could be a winner.
 
icarusfilm said:
I do like my Veydras I have the 35 and the 85
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I like the Celere HS's from what I see and read of them, but not at $4400 a pop. Were they more in the $2500 range I would be tempted to consider a set of 5.

Do you guys find that there is just some intangible niceness of the image produced by a FF lens on S35? Or is that all in my head?

Does a FF 50mm at f/2.8 on the Fs7 have a look that is different from a s35 50mm at f/2.8 on the Fs7? Seems that, at least in my mind, that the FF glass produces a more shallow DoF when wide and close-focused than does the s35 glass. I've read it debated and some say it is nonsense that FF glass produces any special look on S35 that S35 glass cannot produce.

My Sigma Art 16-35mm looks magical at 20mm f/4 and focused on an interview subject 6 ft from the lens. My Sony 18-105mm looks meh at 20mm f/4 and focused on a subject 6 ft from the lens. Is that the difference between FF lens and S35 lens or is it just the difference between Sigma Art and Sony G?
 
JPNola said:
I like the Celere HS's from what I see and read of them, but not at $4400 a pop. Were they more in the $2500 range I would be tempted to consider a set of 5.

Do you guys find that there is just some intangible niceness of the image produced by a FF lens on S35? Or is that all in my head?

Does a FF 50mm at f/2.8 on the Fs7 have a look that is different from a s35 50mm at f/2.8 on the Fs7? Seems that, at least in my mind, that the FF glass produces a more shallow DoF when wide and close-focused than does the s35 glass. I've read it debated and some say it is nonsense that FF glass produces any special look on S35 that S35 glass cannot produce.

My Sigma Art 16-35mm looks magical at 20mm f/4 and focused on an interview subject 6 ft from the lens. My Sony 18-105mm looks meh at 20mm f/4 and focused on a subject 6 ft from the lens. Is that the difference between FF lens and S35 lens or is it just the difference between Sigma Art and Sony G?
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It's all in your head, the only advantage to FF glass on a S35mm sensor is that you're only using the centre of the glass, so you're cutting off most of the optical funkiness and light falloff that you'd otherwise see in the corners of the lens if you had the same lens on a FF sensor.

In terms of optical physics there is no way for a 50mm lens at f/2.8 to render shallower depth of field than another 50mm lens on the same image format (excluding manufacturing tolerances that might render one 50mm lens 49mm in reality and another 51mm). Focus fall-off, contrast and bokeh can change the look of the different lenses though (obviously).
 
Years ago, quite often when I shot on S16mm I would use Primo lenses designed for S35. My DoP was convinced shooting through the sweet spot of the lens produced a more pleasing image. We never did any side by sides, and the guys at the rental house thought we were slightly bonkers, but hey, those Primo lenses were stella. And they looked great in behind-the-scenes pics:-)
 
Yes, that and the fact that Primo lenses had a great intrinsic look. No doubt due to the amount of glass in their design - they are big, heavy lenses.
 
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