SOME MORE FOOTAGE 720 60p

ProjX v2.0 said:
Especially now that Tosh has a link directed here from his updated blog:

http://toshpit.blogs.com/
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I Love it! They have a picture of 'Tosh' up on the site.
dvexpo_tosh_ike1.jpg

:grin:
 
FatBird19 said:
is it slowed down to 24p?
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Well, no, and yes.

It was shot using 720/24pN mode, which establishes a 24p timebase to the clips. But the actual frame rate was set at 60p. So it shoots 60fps and instructs the camera and editing software that the proper rate to play the clip at is 24p.

So it's not that it was slowed down in post or anything, because it's playing back at the rate we told it to base itself on. But it is being slowed down, because 60 frames are being played back at a 24-frame rate. It plays like that in the camera too -- you can see the slow-mo effect (or fast-mo, we shot 12fps too) right in the camera when you play it from the P2 card.

Hope that made sense...
 
Barry_Green said:
Well, no, and yes.

It was shot using 720/24pN mode, which establishes a 24p timebase to the clips. But the actual frame rate was set at 60p. So it shoots 60fps and instructs the camera and editing software that the proper rate to play the clip at is 24p.

So it's not that it was slowed down in post or anything, because it's playing back at the rate we told it to base itself on. But it is being slowed down, because 60 frames are being played back at a 24-frame rate. It plays like that in the camera too -- you can see the slow-mo effect (or fast-mo, we shot 12fps too) right in the camera when you play it from the P2 card.

Hope that made sense...
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WOW,
That's really cool barry.
I had no idea that cam could do that.
I figured we'd just have to shoot at 60fps and slow it down in post.
Very cool.
 
So even though the camera is set to 60fps, when it's encoded to the P2 card is it recording only 24 frames every second thus increasing recording time on the card?
Or is it sucking up the space using 60 full frames?
 
ProjX v2.0 said:
So even though the camera is set to 60fps, when it's encoded to the P2 card is it recording only 24 frames every second thus increasing recording time on the card?
Or is it sucking up the space using 60 full frames?
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When in NATIVE mode (720/24pN or 720/30pN) it writes as many frames to the card as you tell it to. So if you're shooting 720/24pN and undercranking at 12fps, it'll only write 12 frames to the card every second. If you're overcranking at 60fps, it'll write 60 frames to the card. How those frames get played back is determined by which timebase you chose to shoot at. For example, shooting 720/24pN at 12fps results in motion that's twice as fast as realtime. Shooting 720/30pN at 12fps results in motion that's 2.5x as fast as realtime.

12p's kind of cool -- even a 4gb card will show that you've got 20 minutes available recording time! :thumbsup:
 
Barry_Green said:
Well, no, and yes.

It was shot using 720/24pN mode, which establishes a 24p timebase to the clips. But the actual frame rate was set at 60p. So it shoots 60fps and instructs the camera and editing software that the proper rate to play the clip at is 24p.

So it's not that it was slowed down in post or anything, because it's playing back at the rate we told it to base itself on. But it is being slowed down, because 60 frames are being played back at a 24-frame rate. It plays like that in the camera too -- you can see the slow-mo effect (or fast-mo, we shot 12fps too) right in the camera when you play it from the P2 card.

Hope that made sense...
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now that is pretty darn interesting...
 
Barry,

So,,,
if i understand correctly, the only limitation with this method is that we can't use normal 1/48 shutter speed (in 60fps) ?
 
Barry_Green said:
When in NATIVE mode (720/24pN or 720/30pN) it writes as many frames to the card as you tell it to. So if you're shooting 720/24pN and undercranking at 12fps, it'll only write 12 frames to the card every second. If you're overcranking at 60fps, it'll write 60 frames to the card. How those frames get played back is determined by which timebase you chose to shoot at. For example, shooting 720/24pN at 12fps results in motion that's twice as fast as realtime. Shooting 720/30pN at 12fps results in motion that's 2.5x as fast as realtime.

12p's kind of cool -- even a 4gb card will show that you've got 20 minutes available recording time! :thumbsup:
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That is so damn cool!

Chris
 
Barry, Jared, ProjX,
Can you guys PLEASE, post stuff in H.264, the WMV files DO NOT PLAY ON MACS correctly!

Thank you.
 
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