single frame & time-lapse

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Michael Mann

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Dear RED-team:
Will you provide for single frame exposure and time-lapse-frame rates?
Regards, Michael Mann
 
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Well, since no one replied:

Your question is reasonable and it would be nice to see this on the Red, but... why bother with a camera as bulky as the Red for this kind of thing? Just use a digital SLR.
 
stokestack said:
... why bother with a camera as bulky as the Red for this kind of thing? Just use a digital SLR.
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For just some single frame exposures, yes. But I would like to use the RED for long-time time-lapse cinematography, looking for frame rates between 30 frames per minute and maybe 1 frame an hour. It probably could be done with a SLR, but it's really not comfortable.

Thanks for backing me up, stokesack! I guess there should be a lot more in this forum who are interested in that time-lapse thing, no? Hello, folks? Hello, RED-team??
 
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You'd think that still-camera makers would put interval timers on their cameras, but generation after generation, this feature is inexplicably missing from most of them. The addition of it would involve trivial effort, since a modern camera is mostly a timing device and a computer.

People's expectations are low, and most vendors strive to meet them. That's why we're all looking to Red to smash that policy and take one small step toward returning to a value- and innovation-based marketplace, away from a marketplace whose only choice is the big names who cover their asses by offering only crippled products at reasonable prices.
 
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I would definitely welcome a time-lapse feature on the RED. Some of the most beautiful footage I've seen was 16/35mm time-lapse sequences. A nice thing would be if RED could shut down into sleep mode in-between exposures to conserve power.
 
You guys are all right.. time lapse seems to be something that is being left out, but Im glad a few cameras still seem to include the options (the HVX does it pretty well) . Its such a simple feature to implement it just makes sense to include.
 
tnle2 said:
Some of the most beautiful footage I've seen was 16/35mm time-lapse sequences.
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Yes, that's cinematography at it's best. Just think of "Koyaanisqatsi".

tnle2 said:
A nice thing would be if RED could shut down into sleep mode in-between exposures to conserve power.
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What a great idea! Didn't thought of such an useful feature before.
And since there are no moving parts - at least when recording on flash memory cards - sleeping down and waking up between frames should not draw much power, right?
 
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I am VERY interested in time-lapse. Yes you can do it with a SLR camera but it is not convenient. I LOVE the sleep function idea so much. What a great simple idea.
 
Just curious, guys: What is it that you find inconvenient about doing time-lapse with a digital still camera (assuming that you have an interval timer)?
 
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stokestack said:
Just curious, guys: What is it that you find inconvenient about doing time-lapse with a digital still camera (assuming that you have an interval timer)?
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Well, I've done time-lapse with my Nikon D70. Inconvenient I merely find the fact that one needs a seperate timer. For ease of use it all should be in-camera.

However: I see no reason at all to leave out such a powerful, essential, simple, inexpensive feature like time-lapse when designing a jewel like the RED. It would be more than a pity if it's missing.
 
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Yes, this is one very important aspect I'm looking for in the Red as well. I have 2 35mm cameras with a timelapse unit and motion control. Problem is, one of my broadcasters is very HD heavy (there is some latitude, but we're talking 100% as their goal). Additionally, with a project destined to travel to 30 countries with a huge amount of timelapse, it would be a pain to lug 35mm cameras, 35mm motion picture stock, as well as several HD cameras, massive amounts of storage (what ever the hell that ends up being), moco, cranes, lights, etc. As a result, I too have been doing tests on the Nikon D70. Not bad if you make sure absolutely all settings are manual. Probably bring digital still cameras for timelapse (can rig 2 cameras on a moco and get wide shot and cu for the price of one), but would really like something a little more robust like the Red.
 
hey soren.. doesn't this software do 24 or 25 frames per second? if it deals with HD 1920 x 1080 would we have a motion image solution?.. a digital HD from a digital SLR camera + laptop?
 
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Nikon says the shutter of the D70 will last for about 100,000 exposures. (Can anyone confirm this?) That's mere 80 gross minutes of time-lapse footage, and I don't intend to buy a new D70 every project.
The RED time-lapse durability, on the other hand, would be limitless. And it would allow quiet operation as well.
 
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Michael Mann said:
Yes, that's cinematography at it's best. Just think of "Koyaanisqatsi".
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Yes Koyaanisqatsi was good but baraca was way better. For me - static camera timelapse (locked down) are not nearly as compelling as timelapse where the camera tracks the action. I imagine the hardware for enabling a camera to track while doing timelapse is expensive as all get out? Does anyone have experience in this?

thanks
 
I to wish that the time-lapse feature would be included within Red. I'm sure some simple P2 type device could handle such a feature.

By the way, just finished a 4 camera time lapse project for a land developer. The NIKON D200 has the best time lapse I've ever used. Built in intervalometer, RAW record, large memory cards, large image size, good battery system, NO laptop required in field. This camera made time lapse simple.

You could even do motion time lapse in post since the RAW or even high quality JPEG images are so large compared to HD. Not a subsitute for the real thing, but is possible to put a little motion in shots.
 
Hello RED-team:
Do you already have considered/decided to add time-lapse frame rates to the RED one?
Thanks for your answer in advance, Michael Mann
 
XanderDP said:
By the way, just finished a 4 camera time lapse project for a land developer. The NIKON D200 has the best time lapse I've ever used. Built in intervalometer, RAW record, large memory cards, large image size, good battery system, NO laptop required in field. This camera made time lapse simple.
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Yup the D200 is definately my next DSLR. The thing even has rubber seals which make it even better for doing timelapse out in the elements. Thanks for the tip on panning the large files in post. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
XanderDP said:
The NIKON D200 has the best time lapse I've ever used. Built in intervalometer, RAW record, large memory cards, large image size, good battery system, NO laptop required in field. This camera made time lapse simple.
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XanderDP, thanks for your info. About how many frames did you expose with your D200? I am afraid to ruin the shutter much too early. Michael
 
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