AC130: Settings for outdoor shooting for DVD

[ELN614]

For fear of the CIA coming after me, I'll refrain from asking about the specific nature of your subject – however, perhaps a polarizer could help bring out some more detail in the sky and cut down any reflections.

Nahhh just Homeland Security

I will tell you, but don't tell anyone else rogar-Smoke(DBG): -- I tape horses. :beer:

 

[tflak]

DRS might have brightened up the darker branches and shadows. Noise is usually not a problem on these cameras, it depends mainly on your detail level. I don't know what gamma and detail level you were using, but cine-D with about -2 to -3 detail level should result in a nice, smooth, noiseless, solid image.

Here are the settings I used (had them listed below the video). After reading your book, decided to do some experimenting and so tried these. They worked great for a shoot I did in bright daylight the day before shooting that IR clip:

DETAIL: -2
V DETAIL: -2
DETAIL CORING: -2
CHROMA LEVEL: -2
CHROMA PHASE: 0
MASTER PEDESTAL: +1
DRS: ON
DRS EFFECT 1
GAMMA: CINE-LIKE D
MATRIX: CINE-LIKE
SKIN TONE DTL: OFF

Was also at f/5.0 with 0dB GAIN

Maybe you can see something with these that may introduce noise. I'm not saying the noise was terrible - and you said you didn't see it. Maybe due to Vimeo. But when I first viewed the original footage it really jumped out at me. Probably because I'm just not used to having to deal with any noise at all. And then not being able to sharpen the soft footage due to the noise was something I really haven't run into before.

Here's a Scene File I use a lot on my AF100 without ever having any noise issues:

Detail Level - minus 4
V Detail Level - minus 4
Detail Coring - plus 2
Chroma Level - minus 4
Master Ped - minus 2
Gamma - Cine-Like V
Matrix - Norm2
Skin Tone Detail - OFF

I don't mean to belabor this - am just trying to see if there's anything I'm doing that may be causing a camera where noise is usually not a problem to give me a noisy image. Really appreciate your help. Thanks.

 

[Barry_Green]

It all depends on how you viewed it. Did you play it from the camera out to a production monitor? Or onto a hyper-sharpened consumer television? Or did you use VLC to play it?

The AC160 and the AF100 are quite similar in menu settings, not 100% identical but very similar, and you should be getting comparable noise performance between both.

 

[tflak]

It all depends on how you viewed it. Did you play it from the camera out to a production monitor? Or onto a hyper-sharpened consumer television? Or did you use VLC to play it?

The AC160 and the AF100 are quite similar in menu settings, not 100% identical but very similar, and you should be getting comparable noise performance between both.

Have been aware of the viewing issues that can cause noise ever since the original uproar over the supposed noise with the AF100. I never noticed any noise issues with either of my AF100s. And I'm using exactly the same setup to view and edit my AC160A footage. So I don't think anything you listed is a factor.

So if I were to use basically the same Scene Files as I'm using with the AF100 could I expect similar (not identical) results? Which reminds me - think I remember reading a thread where you were working on some matching Scene Files between the AF100 and AC160/130. Any progress there?

Also, are these new Scene Files from Panasonic for AC160/130 and the for the AF100 as well? Seems starnge that this thread is the only place I've seen these new packages mentioned:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?289387-Panasonic-Scene-Files-Now-on-line-TIP

And how different are they from the ones that accompany your books? Thanks!

 

[Barry_Green]

Those scene files will match quite well. Not identical because the chips are different, but they will match well, there are files for the ac130, ac160 and af100. There are also files for the hpx250 and hpx370, some of those will match well with the avccams but some won't.

 

[tflak]

Will have to play around with those. Thanks.