sell my hmc150 for a 7d????

ryanschindler

ryanschindler

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its a decision i've been trying to make lately, ive only had my hmc for about a month now and have been babying it like none other. I love the camera don't get me wrong but after seeing some 7d footage it makes me really want the camera for a few reasons.

1 i wouldent have to buy a 35mm adaptor

2 i want to get into photography as well

3 it is more compact


however heres my other delema

4 i'm not sure how agrivating the DSLR footage is in post, i know it used to take FOREVER to render, not sure how the 7d handles it

5 i am on a very low budget as a high school senior so it could take me over a year to save up for a 35mm adaptor, or i could just sell my hmc and get the 7d asap..



ups and downs???
 
by the way let me say in advance i appreciate all comments helping me with this very much, its a topic ive been trying to research a lot lately.
 
For what I shoot I wouldn't be able to switch over to SLR's totally... but like they said - all depends on what you shoot.
 
The Canon DSLRs are agravating to shoot with because of the lcd screen that doesn't articulate, no viewfinder in video mode, bad audio capabilities, overheating, and limited record times. Keep your hmc-150 and buy a canon t2i, it's cheaper than the 7d and has the same video capabilities.
 
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Bucknfl said:
The Canon DSLRs are agravating to shoot with because of the lcd screen that doesn't articulate, no viewfinder in video mode, bad audio capabilities, overheating, and limited record times. Keep your hmc-150 and buy a canon t2i, it's cheaper than the 7d and has the same video capabilities.
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He said it would take him a year to afford a 35mm adapter. The letus extreme is $1099 which means he can't just easily plunk $800 to get a T2i. Furthermore it means that even the cheapest essential lenses, say a $100 used manual Nikon 50mm f/1.4, would each take him a month to save up for...and that's just the cheapest lenses.

My advice? As a high school senior you should get a job. And no, I'm not just saying that to be a crotchety old (well...ok, I'm 21, you caught me) person. Seriously. If you want to do some filmmaking now you really should consider it. I held down a part time job for...well...actually from now (mid-late march) to the September after my senior year of high school. Now is the time to look because if you wait till the summer nobody is going to want to hire you and train you just to have you leave in 2-3 months. And don't tell me you don't have the time, I was a college-bound filmmaking high school senior recently...you totally can do it :)

Oh and on another note, the HMC-150 is a much better camera to be doing video on as a student than these DSLRs. The DSLRs break all the rules...you should learn how to shoot with a real camera first. Not saying you're just learning, I'm sure you make cool stuff and are good at it, I'm just saying that a real camera like the HMC behaves differently and it's important to know it like the back of your hand because they're all pretty much the same.
 
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yeh and t2i is also not really a good option (i havent used it but from what i read) because he wants to get into photography also. I;m sure its no slouch though but since the 7d is a better still cam then for stills yeh i;d say get the 7d. But we duno what u are using the hmc150 for as yet.
 
What Buck, Ben, and Everts said.

Remember, a shallow depth of field is simply a tool, and not usually a necessary tool. It's really nice, don't get me wrong, but shallow DoF for it's own sake is really over used. You will probably get more practical use out of the HMC than an HDSLR.
 
jambredz said:
yeh and t2i is also not really a good option (i havent used it but from what i read)
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Yes, just look at the "horrible" work shot by Dan Chung with the T2i camera...

Dan Chung filming China’s migrant children using the Canon 550D / T2i
http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/category/canon-550d-t2i/

...My opinion is to keep your HMC150 as it is a work-horse for standard video projects ( i.e. You should be able to make money with it ), and start saving up for a T2i body to have as an alternative camera. You can always rent or borrow Canon lenses once you at least have the DSLR body in your kit.
 
Also a 1.8 50mm is frigging decent at $90 and a great 1st lens if you cant afford much.

I really don't see "awesome quality" out of that video either. The guy is a great OP and knows what to shot - which is always more important than the tools at hand.
 
MadHMC150 said:
I really don't see "awesome quality" out of that video either. The guy is a great OP and knows what to shot - which is always more important than the tools at hand.
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...I think Dan went a little "slider-crazy" with that video ( I like the slow slides much more than the fast ones ), but it is a good example of what you can achieve with the T2i when you know what you are doing.
 
I further echo waht Buck and all have said... but give you this disclaimer too. I'm totally getting a 550d as the cinematic image is just too hard to pass up for that price..... That all being said, DO NOT sell or trade in your 150 cause it is a hammer and will work under all conditions.


I love the 7D and have shot a lot with it over the past couple of weeks but man there's a few more things that really suck about it.

The camera will overheat on you like it has on me and then you have to set it down and let it cool down for 15 minutes. This happens on all long interview shoots and shoots that are just rapid fire productions....


The workflow is a bit more of a PITA..


The lack of real video controls like zebras and WFM and other monitoring.


Finally.. The audio sucks and you'd need to get an external recorder......


The 7d and other DSLRs are niche speciality cameras... They would be perfect music video camcorders but horrible run and gun shooters and terrible for longform docs and events that you need to roll and roll.


I too would endorse the 550d over the 7D for the cheaper price but also because it shoots SD cards.. That's a big deal right there.


cheers and enjoy the diversity but don't give up the 150 unless you are doing purely cinematic short run shoots or music videos.. If you do or want to do other things then the 150 is a gem.... All that comes from a guy who's totally buying something cause it can give you the dof you want that you can't get from the stock 150.
 
I own both and use them for different things but if I had to pick only one, I would pick the HMC150. Its been mentioned before, but one of the big reasons is the difficulty in viewing what you are shooting. Your head pretty much has to always be right behind the camera...a big deal for shooting handheld quickly from various angle's. And a really big deal for focusing with a narrow depth of field.
 
FYI, I have a barely used Brevis that I'm selling. I also have the rail support that I can sell.

ryanschindler said:
its a decision i've been trying to make lately, ive only had my hmc for about a month now and have been babying it like none other. I love the camera don't get me wrong but after seeing some 7d footage it makes me really want the camera for a few reasons.

1 i wouldent have to buy a 35mm adaptor

2 i want to get into photography as well

3 it is more compact


however heres my other delema

4 i'm not sure how agrivating the DSLR footage is in post, i know it used to take FOREVER to render, not sure how the 7d handles it

5 i am on a very low budget as a high school senior so it could take me over a year to save up for a 35mm adaptor, or i could just sell my hmc and get the 7d asap..



ups and downs???
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as an owner of a 150 (for jobs) and a 550d (for fun) I can say that- although the HDSLR shoots great shallow DOF video, it is no video camera (as I define them). I would not trade shallow DOF for:

a histogram/vectorscope
zebra stripes
balanced XLR inputs
audio meters
auto-focus
3 ND filters
better codec
adjustable LCD
no CMOS
OIS

To rig out a 7d with the gear needed to get the above- you would spend more than what a HMC costs. I know what your'e feeling- "the grass is greener"... I fell in love with the HDSLR imagery. And so I bought the 550d. But after using one, despite its gorgeous images- it actually made me appreciate the HMC even more.
 
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