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I hear you, Jack. I'm broke at the moment as well, waiting for a huge bonus check to come in, that unfortunately won't come in until the end of May/June ... so I'm not exactly sure where I'll even get the money from for food & materials, unless I can quickly pull a couple of short term paying jobs together (working on it).

It's interesting to find that the folks that live in LA and NYC are the ones that will probably have the TOUGHEST times securing locations, since all the surrounding folk are so film saavy and have their own media relations departments and/or want extensive cash up front to use the place, require insurance, bonding, etc.

I'm flat out astounded at some of the locations it looks like we're able to pull together on this one for simply copy & credit and/or some simple bartering of production services. We're budgeting our total food & materails to hopefully not exceed $800, and that's a split between 235 Studios and I.
 
Envision said:
I hear you, Jack. I'm broke at the moment as well, waiting for a huge bonus check to come in, that unfortunately won't come in until the end of May/June ... so I'm not exactly sure where I'll even get the money from for food & materials, unless I can quickly pull a couple of short term paying jobs together (working on it).

It's interesting to find that the folks that live in LA and NYC are the ones that will probably have the TOUGHEST times securing locations, since all the surrounding folk are so film saavy and have their own media relations departments and/or want extensive cash up front to use the place, require insurance, bonding, etc.

I'm flat out astounded at some of the locations it looks like we're able to pull together on this one for simply copy & credit and/or some simple bartering of production services. We're budgeting our total food & materails to hopefully not exceed $800, and that's a split between 235 Studios and I.
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Yeah, it seems that way. I'm almost AFRAID of trying to secure my prime location here in Los Angeles.. Keeping home alive.

Looks like your budget went up for this one, Norm?
 
well NY has this super cool deal where you can get a permit for free and shoot almost anywhere --- RIKERS even -- and the FDNY training facility which can act as a fake street facade.
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Imagine what you could do here

Free Free Free

you can get the permit in a days turn around and even get a cop or two if you need them

the catch is that you have to have one million dollars of insurance! which you could get for $500 dollars for a couple of days but .... ain't got it.
 
I agree with the general consensus here... tools/budget ain't nothing, and can often be a detriment. Texas Fortune couldn't have cost more than a couple hundred bucks, and most of that was spent on food and gas.

Best story on budget I ever heard: at my film school, one student felt overwhelmed by all the other students, who were spending thousands of dollars on their reels. He had pennies to his name, and asked the film chair what he should do. The chairman told him to check out an Arri 16mm from the school, buy some shortends, and go film something.

He found a group of senior citizens playing bocce ball in a park, and documented them. It ended up being the best piece of filmmaking in his entire class, and went on to win awards. He was immediately signed to a major commercial house here in LA.

:)
 
Good story, Sam ... thanks for sharing that. BTW, what are "shortends?"

Jack, I am SO envious of what you guys have in NYC! If we ever went to the city for Portland, OR and/or Vancouver, WA they'd still want money for the permits, take DAYS if not weeks to get, etc ... in addition to all the liability insurance, etc. What a joke.

NYC has the right idea, and that's great that such a large city, and film saavy one at that, is doing such a incredible service for the indie film maker. Too bad it doesn't sound like LA's on par with that ... not that it effects me in any way.
 
Envision said:
Good story, Sam ... thanks for sharing that. BTW, what are "shortends?"
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short ends are left over unused pieces of film I believe that havn't been exposed. string them together and you have a reel, right Sam?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060084677/104-5330606-5719138?v=glance&n=283155

Envision said:
Jack, I am SO envious of what you guys have in NYC! If we ever went to the city for Portland, OR and/or Vancouver, WA they'd still want money for the permits, take DAYS if not weeks to get, etc ... in addition to all the liability insurance, etc. What a joke.
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well you still have to have one million dollars in liability insurance ... that's the only caveat in case you drop a light on a citzen's head.

Envision said:
NYC has the right idea, and that's great that such a large city, and film saavy one at that, is doing such a incredible service for the indie film maker. Too bad it doesn't sound like LA's on par with that ... not that it effects me in any way.
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It's designed to get film companies to come here.

But LA has no need to entice people to film there.

New Orleans or the state of Lousisana rather has a tax incentive where you basically get a third of the money you spend back. So a 90 million dollar movie would cost $60 -- a difference of $30 million is an opening weeked!

Like I said, the NY thing is designed to get film companies to come here but happens to benefit indies as well.

Film students have it made the most of all though because they can use their school or film department's insurance and then go shoot in a designated court room or wherever for ABSOLUTELY free -- no insurance to pay for.
 
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