RED unveils Monstro 8K VV full-frame sensor with 17+ stops of dynamic range

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RED has just announced its new Monstro 8K VV full-frame sensor for Weapon cameras. The device features a 35.4MP 40.96mm x 21.60mm sensor and is able to record at a full 8K/60fps resolution. RED explains that the Monstro 8K VV replaces its existing DRAGON 8K VV sensor, and that anyone who has ordered the DRAGON 8K VV will be offered the Monstro as of October 5th.

The Monstro 8K VV sensor has full support for RED's IPP2 image processing pipeline, as well as an "unprecedented dynamic range [of 17+ stops] and breathtaking color accuracy," according to RED President Jarred Land. When coupled with the Weapon 8K VV, the device can simultaneously record Redcode RAW and either Avid DNxHD/HR or Apple ProRes, likewise offering data speeds up to 300MB/s. The sensor's full technical spec sheet is insane, and available for your viewing pleasure here.

Existing carbon fiber Weapon customers have the option of upgrading for $29,500, while the new Weapon with the full-frame Monstro sensor is priced at $79,500. New orders for the device will start shipping to customers in early 2018.
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https://www.dpreview.com/news/26552...ro-8k-vv-full-frame-sensor-for-weapon-cameras
http://www.red.com/products/weapon#techspecs

Clueless post on DPR : "This isn't a photography image sensor. Not sure which format this is "full frame" of. Size is 41mm x 21.5mm not 36x24"
 
joe1946 said:
Clueless post on DPR : "This isn't a photography image sensor. Not sure which format this is "full frame" of. Size is 41mm x 21.5mm not 36x24"
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I think it is "vista vision" but slightly larger so if you come across vista vision lenses from the 60 they might not cover the entire sensor...
 
puredrifting said:
I am actually setting up a Weapon 6K right now as I type this. I don't like my cameras to have skulls all over them. I though Ed Hardy only designed T-Shirts? The fans on this camera are ridiculously loud.
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Could you repeat this post? I couldn't hear it due to the loud fans.




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yoclay said:
17+ stops, my arse.
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Not even that. Even if it is real 17 stops, it won't make me like the look, the form factor and all the skulls and other trying way to hard to be cool stuff. So to me it's meaningless if it's real 17 stops or not.
 
NorBro said:
That dynamic range is most likely calculated in the HDRx mode.
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Clearly not... What's your issue with the number? RED does measure DR as maximum steps versus some other manufacturers. ARRI says 14 and means 16-17, where most other manufacturers say the highest number they can demonstrably show.
 
nyvz said:
Clearly not... What's your issue with the number? RED does measure DR as maximum steps versus some other manufacturers. ARRI says 14 and means 16-17, where most other manufacturers say the highest number they can demonstrably show.
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I actually had a decent possibility for their number and out of all of the other posts who actually bash the camera/company, you ask ME what's my issue, hahah.

You say clearly not...where's the clearly not part? Am I missing an attachment?

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No issue. They can claim 30 stops if they would like; it's not my business.

But any reasonable mind will understand that there's a difference between test chart results and real world performance.
 
I could care less how many stops a manufacturer declares, as long as they are consistent from model to model. I basically see '17+' stops as '1/2 stop more' than the 16.5+ claimed on the dragon/helium sensors. I think that starts to push into Alexa territory, which I think most people are happy with.
 
Can we tone down the snark and discuss the actual camera guys?

It's $80,000 just for the brain, so pretty exclusively a big boys' toy only. Red's DR claims have repeatedly proven to be bupkis (for reasons I can't quite understand), but they're hardly alone in making silly claims about their cameras (I'm looking at you Sony and your significantly less sensitive than claimed F5, F55 and FS5/FS7). And their cameras have delivered the goods image-wise since they came out with the Dragon sensor.

There's also more and more third-party modules arriving that look like they'll provide the necessary functionality the cameras have long needed. So the outlook is all pretty positive.

I'm certainly keen to put the new sensor through its paces (and finally start getting some more frequent rentals on my Zeiss CZ.2s!).

The pricing on the Monstro has certainly made the Venice the most financially appealing game in town for large sensor work.
 
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