Red or 7D?

I love my hDLSR, but I don't understand why people insist on comparing it to a RED? If I had the money and the access and the setup ability of a narrative feature, I'd use the RED. For run and gun, my budget, and lots of other stuff, I like my little GH1. It's apples and oranges!
 
True, and the nice thing about skateboards is that they can take you into places where a 747 never can fit.
Yes they most certainly can. That's an excellent observation and ties in with what I'm saying -- these are unique products, use them for what they're best at, don't try to use a butterknife to cut a tree branch. Or kill a fly with an elephant gun.
 
Those analogies only apply to traditional "filmmaking". Again, what percentage of vDSLR shooters are attempting traditional "filmmaking"? .01%? .001%?
 
You shouldn't bring a 7D to a gunfight. You should bring a Red to a gunfight, and get it in 120 frames a second at high res. Okay never mind.

I think RED is supposed to be outside the confines of 'traditional' filmmaking, also. Trust me, I'll certainly be shooting on a DSLR, but if more money and support was there, the RED would be a serious consideration for all the reasons it's amazing and still 'cutting edge' in comparison to 35mm film or $150,000 Sony Cameras...
 
I have a RED and just bought a 7D. Different tools for different shows. With the 7D, I plan on getting shots in seconds out of my backback, in Grand Central without a permit, at night without lights, in crowds with no one freaking out over the big camera, etc. With the RED, I shoot with a crew and a budget. It's not a run and gun camera and probably the most ill balanced hand held camera out there. You need an AC, 2nd AC and a data manager. I plan to use the RED for shows with a budget and the 7D to satisfy my impulses and get shots I can't get with any other setup.

If I didn't have the money for AD's and PA's to lock locations, 2nd AC and Data Manager, Proper camera support, PL mount lenses, then I'd definitely shoot on 7D.
 
There are so many variables for this, but if your doing this "gorilla" style where you don't want the hotel management knowing what your up too, you don't have a permit and you want as small a crew as possible, use the 7D.

Your not likely to get in and out of the hotel unnoticed with the crew required to manhandle the Red. (Especially if your doing something sexually explicit...)

Just a thought.
 
I have a RED and just bought a 7D. Different tools for different shows. With the 7D, I plan on getting shots in seconds out of my backback, in Grand Central without a permit, at night without lights, in crowds with no one freaking out over the big camera, etc. With the RED, I shoot with a crew and a budget. It's not a run and gun camera and probably the most ill balanced hand held camera out there. You need an AC, 2nd AC and a data manager. I plan to use the RED for shows with a budget and the 7D to satisfy my impulses and get shots I can't get with any other setup.

If I didn't have the money for AD's and PA's to lock locations, 2nd AC and Data Manager, Proper camera support, PL mount lenses, then I'd definitely shoot on 7D.

That's it. One more "little detail", if you don't have some substantial experience with larger cameras, hopefully some film cameras, the RED will be a bit of a challenge.
If you are at the beginning of this wonderful and exciting ride which is filmmaking, play it safe and focus on your storytelling abilities, in other words go with the 7D.
 
I have a RED and just bought a 7D. Different tools for different shows. With the 7D, I plan on getting shots in seconds out of my backback, in Grand Central without a permit, at night without lights, in crowds with no one freaking out over the big camera, etc. With the RED, I shoot with a crew and a budget. It's not a run and gun camera and probably the most ill balanced hand held camera out there. You need an AC, 2nd AC and a data manager. I plan to use the RED for shows with a budget and the 7D to satisfy my impulses and get shots I can't get with any other setup.

If I didn't have the money for AD's and PA's to lock locations, 2nd AC and Data Manager, Proper camera support, PL mount lenses, then I'd definitely shoot on 7D.

Wow well said...
 
"and put a 250w E27bulb on a Dimmer."


Awesome. I didn't even know those bulbs existed. Thanks for posting that, Tim!
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I always find these types of questions humorous.
If you have access to a RED or a 7D, you should know what camera to use based on the shooting location and content.
 
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