RED Footage Download Format Requests for 8th of September

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JackFoley

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Hi,

this is what I would like to see as far as footage on the web goes. If others have other requests, please add. But I think I have covered the most important stuff.

Clips
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Red Format
* S35

File Format
* QuickTime .mov, H.264 encoding
* These play well on both, Windows (where I am) and OSX machines.

Resolutions:
* 4k (36 Mbps)
* 2k (12 Mbps)
* 1080p (10 Mbps)
* 720p (8 Mbps)

Duration:
* 5 second clips
* 10 second clips
* 30 second clips

Framerates:
* 24
* 60

Download Page:
* The download page should be modeled after a trailers.apple.com download page with the typical QT HD dowload buttons, e.g.

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedeparted/hd/
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/babel/hd/

Man, I will love to compare the noise rate.


Framegrabs:
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Format:
* JPEG2000 (16 bit color depth)
* TIFF (16 bit color depth)

Resolution:
* only 5k/4k images required
* one can scale down themself

Jack
 
those are good suggestions. i would merely add a rar'ed 4k TIFF sequence to the wish list. about 5 secs would be nice.

this is going to be awesome!!
greets
 
Some jpeg Stills in 4k resolution would me nice too. (because i don´t think my pc could play 4k footage)
 
JackFoley said:
Hi,

Clips
-----

Red Format
* S35

File Format
* QuickTime .mov, H.264 encoding
* These play well on both, Windows (where I am) and OSX machines.

Resolutions:
* 4k (36 Mbps)
* 2k (12 Mbps)
* 1080p (10 Mbps)
* 720p (8 Mbps)

Jack
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Why such low data-rates? I just can't think of a reason to view 4k image
at just a little over mini-DV data rate, especially, when we want to
examine the footage, at this point.
 
janghos said:
Why such low data-rates? I just can't think of a reason to view 4k image
at just a little over mini-DV data rate, especially, when we want to
examine the footage, at this point.
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Good point. But have you ever worked with the H.264 codec? The quality that can be achieved at these low bitrates is amazing.

Sure, the bitrates can be increased, but that will limit the playback to ultra fast machines because H.264 is quite complex to decode. And we should have the framegrabs to judge the real quality.

The whole web-footage stuff is a compromize.

I think only the RED team can judge what to use based on the footage. It is a try-and-error process. I have never had "clean" or 4k footage on my machine yet, so I could only guess.
 
JackFoley said:
Good point. But have you ever worked with the H.264 codec? The quality that can be achieved at these low bitrates is amazing.

Sure, the bitrates can be increased, but that will limit the playback to ultra fast machines because H.264 is quite complex to decode. And we should have the framegrabs to judge the real quality.

The whole web-footage stuff is a compromize.

I think only the RED team can judge what to use based on the footage. It is a try-and-error process. I have never had "clean" or 4k footage on my machine yet, so I could only guess.
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From my perspective, the only useful footage I want to see is the 4k RAW, unless they have their compressed codecs ready.

I would rather take the RAW image and manipulate it the way I want, see how far it can be pushed around.

It doesn't have to be a lot of frames, a few seconds is enough, and if needed, it can be a bit torrent for download purposes.

This is why I was disappointed with the samples Dalsa makes available. They are already color corrected and converted, doesn't give me an idea of where it is and where it can go.
 
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