RED CAMERA Prelim. Specs

I totally agree with you last two guys. The more I hear about RED and cameras like it the more the HVX starts to look really good. Even if I have to take out a loan for one. I was really hoping the base RED would be under $10,000. But I'm sure we can throw that idea out the window.
 
Jim, I think someone in this thread made a reference to a prototype camera from a company called Kinetta and mentioned $60K. Next thing you know, someone else is connecting that amount with Red, which of course is erroneous.

Amazing how rumours and stories get all blown out of proportion.

As far as I'm aware, you haven't made any announcement on a price.
 
I won't mind someone giving up on our project once they see what we are doing and have heard the price. Just hate to see people make decisions on something before they have the real scoop. There is so much speculation that I think some are believing the misguided guesses. I'm excited to show where we are on our progress. After Monday, many people will decide if they are "in" or not.

See you at NAB... Jim
 
Well Jim, I think it's great what you're doing. I probably won't be able to afford it and that's cool. I'm still excited as hell to see what you've got, even if it's not for me right now. I know I'll shoot with it one day no matter what it's cost.

I shot my last feature on an XL1 for $2000. I shot my last short film (released in a month) on a Canon Optura 20 for $200, and it looks better the the feature before it. Give me whatever you've got and I'll make a movie and I'll keep getting better and better. I'm working my skills up to a RED. I haven't earned it yet. :)

But I do hope that my next feature I have planned for production in two years is RED compatible. Because this story really deserves nothing less. But I'll shoot it with whatever I have if it comes down to it. We indie filmmakers stop at nothing, as you know.
 
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Hey Jim, isn't Jannard French?

The world's greatest inventors were French, looks like you got that in your blood.

Henry

P.S. Does kissing up get us a free camera?
 
whatever the cost of the RED camera - some will be able to afford it- some not. many will think the price is low , others too much $$ - just all depends where you are sitting today ...

kind of like the Kinetta camera which never had a set price but sort of a 30-60k price range - for many it was all too much and for others hey 60k is a great deal but that was 2 years ago .. today everything is changing between this week annoucements of Silicon Imaging SI-1920HDVR camera and next week RED spec/info release and who knows maybe a few other surprises at NAB ????

2006 is the year - there's a camera in every price range ...
the hand size hd cameras are all very good and the most bang for the $$ -choose the one that fits your project & budget ....
 
if this camera will actually exist, damn at a good price, wow, i will have to take one over to Africa and start film industry there
 
Jannard said:
I won't mind someone giving up on our project once they see what we are doing and have heard the price. Just hate to see people make decisions on something before they have the real scoop. There is so much speculation that I think some are believing the misguided guesses. I'm excited to show where we are on our progress. After Monday, many people will decide if they are "in" or not.

See you at NAB... Jim
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well, if it's no more than $15,000, hell, i'm in! anything lower than that, is just icing on the cake! and i will be that person who delivers that cake to you over at the oakley headquarters in foothill ranch since i'm only 15 minutes away from that grey dome...:grin:
 
DavidBeier said:
Are you serious?

I don't know what kind of background you come from but my parents are teachers and I'm going through college on scholarships. Yeah, I guess if I asked my parents to morgage our house I could afford a 60k camera (selling all our cars wouldn't get us half there).

We don't all have a lot of money to throw around and despite what some may think, 60k is a hell of a lot of money to some of us.
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what? lol, when did i say 60K was not a lot of money? All I said was that anyone who puts their mind to it can afford it...yeah it may takes 5 years of working 4 jobs a day, but if you want something bad enough you can get it.

60K is A LOT of money, but have you seen those people who live in run down $300 a month apartments in the gehtto, but they own a corvette, with a $15,000 stereo system installed...I think that is a waste of money since you cannot turn around and make your money back with it, but if you managed a $60K Kinetta camera, you could turn around and make it all back in a year with your curent client base.

::: Connor

P.S. - don't lecture me about money , i lived off ramen noodles for 5 years. breakfast, lunch and dinner. ;)
 
HenryK said:
$1 for Kinetta camera was too much since it's the camera that never was.
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No doubt. I ran into the Kinetta guy as he was wandering around the NAB show floor last year, and actually held and looked through the mythical camera. As usual, he touted the camera's "sensor-agnostic" design. You can put whatever sensor you want in there, he says.

So of course I asked what the hold-up was. He gave the same answer they've been giving for years: "We're waiting for sensors."

logic = credibility = 0
 
and if you see Kinetta camera running around at NAB 2006 you again will hear "waiting for the sensor " same as 2005, 2004 ...
 
MachinePhilby said:
Well, I've been in hospital for the last few months... and I come back to see all this...

WOW!!... Really!?
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Wow. Are you feeling better? And, yes, welcome to the wonderful world of RED!
 
Yeah thanks! Everything's picking up!

The wonderful world of RED... after everything I've read over the past few hours I honestly don't know what to say...!!! Everyone is excited... I don't ever recall seeing Jarred so excited about a new product like I have seen in some of his posts! (although I have been away :) )

Unfortunately like most people I don't get to visit events like NAB so I rely soley on the people in this community who contribute within these forums...

Having said that.. I'm excited to read about it all!!! Look forward to seeing how all this pans out, as is probably every single user in this place!!

WOOT!!
 
Form factor

Form factor

It's still impossible to make any comments about the technology of this camera concept, so the only thing that one can really comment on is the industrial design. I really don't like this form factor. A 4K camera means heavy lenses, follow focus systems, etc. In my opinion this form factor is not operator-friendly. It needs to be a shoulder camera. The self-consciously cool design leaves me absolutely cold and frankly hurts my eyes. Having said that, I support the effort but hope that RED goes back to the drawing board on the industrial design.

Greg Lowry
 
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