Danilo Del Tufo
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Any chance that Redcamera will be capable also of 120p? I'd like to switch between 60p or 120p, is possible adds this feature?
RED CAMERA Prelim. Specs
- Thread starter Jarred Land
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we will know at NAB.. but Im pretty confident it will be somewhere higher than 60p... depending on what format you shoot at. If they can get 4k resolution recording at 24p, they should be able to burst 120p into a 720 resolution without much difficulty, depending on the imager. It shouldnt be a bandwidth issue.
CORUSA Design
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I don't see the big deal. You already got Kinetta, and Sony with 4K Digital Cinemas that have been in the works longer than RED, and prototypes already released. Why is this "red" camera such a big deal?
I also think it is sad how far behind our community is from studio professional film makers. I mean they have been able to shoot in 300, 600 frames per second for 10-15 years, and we are jus tnot getting excited about 60p or possibly 120p? It makes me sad that is takes 10-15 years for the technology to trickle down to us.
::: Connor
I also think it is sad how far behind our community is from studio professional film makers. I mean they have been able to shoot in 300, 600 frames per second for 10-15 years, and we are jus tnot getting excited about 60p or possibly 120p? It makes me sad that is takes 10-15 years for the technology to trickle down to us.
::: Connor
liquidigital
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I think the excitement is over the prospect that this system could be affordable, meaning within this community's reach. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
DavidBeier
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CORUSA Design said:
You should know better than that.
The reason everyone is getting excited (don't know if their hopes are realistic or not mind you) is that Red may offer the equivelent of high-quality 35mm style images to the masses.
Image the ability to produce a 35mm calibur images digitally. Without having to worry about paying for film or carting around film magazines. Imagine being able to see what you'll get instantly on the monitor and not having worry that your light meter might be off or you entered in a number incorrectly. Imagine getting to work with all the flexibility of digital yet retain such a sharp image. And finally, imagine being able to do all this for an affordible price.
I don't know if RED can actually offer this but you'd have to be nuts not to realize why the prospect is so exciting.
androbot2084
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And what Red quality means is the quality of 35mm film negatives which is 4 times the quality of a 35mm print which means a quality that few people have ever seen.
CORUSA Design
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DavidBeier said:
IT is available to the masses. $60,000 for the Kinetta camera is nothing to pay for that kind of quality.
Think about it...so many people these days want a sports car, and a plasma TV, and the 6,000 square foot house, and the 4 car garage, and a car for every child, etc etc....well OF COUSE you can't afford it then...you have to pick and choose where to put your money. I guarantee anyone here could find a way to afford a $60,000 camera if they put their mind to it and wanted to...but most people want every other little gadget out there and they want it INSTANTLY...They aren't willing to actually work for a hard buck and oh..i dunno....perhaps...EARN IT? Yeah, and so they complain about not being able to afford it.
::: Connor
CORUSA Design said:
work? damn.. why didnt anyone tell me it was work. I have way to much fun doing this for me to call it work
CORUSA Design
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Jarred Land said:work? damn.. why didnt anyone tell me it was work. I have way to much fun doing this for me to call it work
I have fun everyday "working" on video production, etc...Why is "work" a negative word? I don't know about you, but I can have fun working. I haven't had a 40 hour week in years, but that's cause I love WORKING...always turns into an 80, 120hr week, which is fine with me.
::: Connor
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Jaime Valles
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CORUSA Design said:
I don't think the Kinetta is available at all. If and when it becomes available, then we'll be able to see the difference in price / quality / features between the two.
ha ha ha nice Henry.. i think you summed up the point of what RED is trying to do pretty well.
androbot2084
Carbonite Member
I'm not paying 60,000 dollars for this camera. If you think about it soon you can get a JVC GY-HD7000 3CCD 2/3 inch high definition camera for about $25,000. If Red uses 4 each of 2/3 inch CCD's to make its 35mm chip then the camera should not cost much more. If Red wants to be cheap or offer a lower cost model they can construct a battery of 8 each of 1/2 inch chips or even 16 each of 1/3 inch chips. One ultra high definition video camera was built using 16 chips in a split screen configuration with a row of 8 chips on the top and 8 chips on the bottom. The signals were divided into 24 each of 640 x 480 frames. If you can limit the bandwidth to 4 megabits per secound for each frame then the total bandwidth should be about 100 megabits per secound.
multiple chips in an array is not a good solution. You not only get into troubles with seaming the chips, each CCD has it's unique characteristics that become evident after the processing.
CORUSA Design
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tuface said:
Hmm, odd, I don't see work that way, but I guess if you have had bad/crummy jobs in the past you might see the definition of "work" like that.
::: Connor
Nova Invicta
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Typical American specification, Panasonic has made huge errors with the Varicam because they only really though about the US market. Wake up the rest of the world is mainly PAL and 25FPS / 25P. Also 60 create sound issues in time code for the rest of the world.
DavidBeier
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CORUSA Design said:
Are you serious?
I don't know what kind of background you come from but my parents are teachers and I'm going through college on scholarships. Yeah, I guess if I asked my parents to morgage our house I could afford a 60k camera (selling all our cars wouldn't get us half there).
We don't all have a lot of money to throw around and despite what some may think, 60k is a hell of a lot of money to some of us.
Aaron Koolen
Well-known member
I agree with David, 60K is a lot of cash, but in reality I would think that RED will primarily be for those who work in the industry and earn reasonable cash. Therefore a camera will be an investment and so 60K or so is worth it to them.
For people like me who do camera/filmmaking stuff as a serious hobby (i.e. Don't work in the industry), we're more in the 5K cam range, and maybe HVX range if we were lucky. RED isn't for us.
For people like me who do camera/filmmaking stuff as a serious hobby (i.e. Don't work in the industry), we're more in the 5K cam range, and maybe HVX range if we were lucky. RED isn't for us.