C100: Recommendation for Studio Monitor, around 17"

nedcam

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What have C100 owners been using for a larger monitor? I have a Panasonic 9" that does not have a HDMI in and a DP6 but I now need something for clients to view. Also, any way to have it battery powered in the field? Thinking around 17" and need to put a stud on the bottom for a rolling stand.

Thanks,
 
Ned,

Sony, Panasonic and TVLogic all have 17" field monitors. Panavision just purchased a number of TV logic 17" units for their use in NYC. These monitors need VESA mounts on the back to lock into a c stand or light stand. If I can be of assistance let me know.

Kind regards,
 
why not PC monitor? there are now 10 bit monitors with in PC monitors. many brands does them now.... HP, Dell, Nec... i wonder if anyone knows what is the best one ?

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Thanks but...brand names don't help. Does anyone on this board have a specific model they can recommend? FSI has many monitors, the closest one I can find is:

http://www.flandersscientific.com/index/lm2140w.php

but I prefer to have some referrals since I can't rent one easily or see it in a showroom. I do not want to use a computer monitor. Need WYSIWYG.

Thanks,
 
FSI rep says this is the latest version:

http://www.shopfsi.com/BM210-p/bm210.htm

Didn't want to spend $2500 though, and by the time I add battery option and stud I'm sure it will be higher. But sometimes I'm in a studio and two or three clients standing shoulder to shoulder need to view so I don't want to go smaller.
 
I use my 24" FSI 10 bit monitor in the field all of the time.

The picture quality is unmatched, with the bonus of using it as a color-accurate grading monitor in the edit suite.
 
FSI rep says this is the latest version:

http://www.shopfsi.com/BM210-p/bm210.htm

Didn't want to spend $2500 though, and by the time I add battery option and stud I'm sure it will be higher. But sometimes I'm in a studio and two or three clients standing shoulder to shoulder need to view so I don't want to go smaller.

i am sorry but i dont understand , could u plz explain your point of view- as i am also looking for the monitor my self, and cant come up with what i want/need/can afford, u r going to pay almost 3 grands for 8 bit monitor , but what are the advantages you r going to get ? just the connectors? but your c100 has no sdi as i remember, just hdmi. for around 1000$ u can get 24-30` 10 bit pc monitor with hdmi, especially if u going to use it in studio, no problems to power it up....

they say : unit features full 12-bit video processing and a native 1920x1080 resolution 8-bit panel capable of reproducing over 16.7 million colors on screen. - what a hell it means? why its always so complicated... could some one plz explain this : 12-bit video processing & 8-bit panel?
paying that much i would like to get as much as i could out for my monitor. and i dont think 8 bit is best option. so if its 10 bit it could be used as color accurate monitor , but again i dont understand how it can help with 8 bit camcorder.
 
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But I have other cameras, so I do need a SDI in. And yes, you're right, this is too expensive. I am wondering with the new OLEDs, is there a high end consumer monitor out there I can use with the C100 and for SDI I will use what I have presently. I'm hoping some folks on this board will chime in with what they are happy with. I have had major problems setting up computer monitors in the field, it is not WYSIWYG, causing grading headaches. Perhaps there is a way to do it but I haven't been successful.

The more I think about it I probably don't need battery power for a larger monitor in the field outdoors because we usually have AC, perhaps a generator. You're right $3000 is way too expensive hoping to buy new around $1500 or so.
 
If it's just for your client to see your composition, then you might consider using a consumer LED TV set with an SDI--->HDMI converter box.

I use a Samsung 22 inch 5003 Series LED TV for this purpose, and have it mounted on a small C-stand using a cine VESA mount. The image is fine for the client to see what's going on.
 
what would be the cheapest production monitor?

Seams like the flanders are great , but too expansive for me now, but also the worst of all it is not for sale in europe, u have to order from usa , and its around 14% of custom tax + delivery + 21 % VAT...

so i wonder if there are any other / possibly cheaper ?

Regards
 
UPDATE FROM OP:

I took the camera into a large electronics store chain and plugged into the Samsung 22" model and there's no way you could have a client look at it. It would cause too much anxiety. Looks "OK" for a consumer monitor, in fact sports was looking great on it. But when I plugged in it doesn't look too good. Streaks, tremendous aliasing, etc.

So unfortunately this will put me towards buying a 17" Panasonic for over 2K. I have always had the best monitor I can afford so it looks the best to a client.
 
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why not PC monitor?

Because PC monitors won't show you what the signal really looks like. He needs a monitor that will show Rec.709, the correct gamut, correct gamma, correct blank and white points, and can be easily and accurately calibrated. He needs a production monitor, not a computer monitor. Or an HDTV, especially one that is ISFccc calibration ready, which unfortunately usually means a bigger HDTV than the OP wants.
 
Looks "OK" for a consumer monitor, in fact sports was looking great on it. But when I plugged in it doesn't look too good. Streaks, tremendous aliasing, etc.

By default these consumer monitors have everything tuned way up, but you can adjust it to get rid of the over-sharpened / over saturated image, and the results aren't that bad in terms of being able to judge composition. ( it's useless for color and contrast, but then it's a $200 monitor, not a $2K+ monitor )
 
So unfortunately this will put me towards buying a 17" Panasonic for over 2K. I have always had the best monitor I can afford so it looks the best to a client.

If you're going to spend that kind of money, make sure the monitor can at least display native 1080p resolution. ( with the cheaper monitors you have to put them in 1:1 pixel mode to really see what's going on with your image )
 
If you are going to use this on location, consider getting a nice transport case to protect this monitor, as the case is plastic as opposed to Panasonic's more expensive models metal cases.
 
Yes thanks. There's a place in Chicago that makes custom fiberboard wood lined and shellacked cases for me, I get to choose how deep the foam is and have areas made for accessories.
 
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