OTHER: Px270

Mike Warren

Mike Warren

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This looks interesting.

http://www.resource.datavideo.info/specs/Panasonic_AJ-PX270.pdf

AVC Ultra. I hope 50p/60p in included and this might finally be the camera I'm looking for, although the new Sony PXW-Z100 is looking good too.

They claim a "new" 22x lens (and it certainly looks different to the 250/160/130) and a new sensor.

I also like where the LCD is mounted. It's in a position that should work well for shoulder mount adaption.
 
Mark Williams said:
The lens is one of the weak points on the HPX250. Perhaps this one will be better.
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That's what I'm hoping, although unless the price is massively increased I don't know that a great deal can be done with such a large zoom range.

I would have bought a 250 if it had 1080p50 even though I was unhappy with some aspects of it. The preliminary 270 brochure says it doesn't support all AVC Ultra formats, but I would be really shocked if 1080p50/60 wasn't included.
 
I wonder if it will have a color matrix? I can't stand how Panasonic does not let you alter very much in its sub $20,000 cameras. Sony & Canon have been offering this for a long time.

25mbps 4:2:2 footage looks like a great fit for backups. I also like the forward LCD placement.
 
Point of clarification -- it's not an "HPX"270, it's a "PX270". Seems like in their most recent camera introductions they've been dropping the "H", which does actually make some sense; the "H" was introduced with "high def", and these cameras they're now introducing (like the PX5000) are beyond high-def (1080/60p is a beyond-high-def standard) so the "H" isn't included in the name anymore...
 
Just now stumbled on to this.

Curious... with AVC-LongG25, seems like this could effectively supplant both of the current SDI-sporting Panny 1/3" cams (AC160 & HPX250). Also curious if, as with the Micro-P2 adapter cards, a user would be able to use SD cards with the lower bitrate codec options.
 
Looks very interesting indeed.

So I'm guessing Adobe CS6 will not support any of the formats this camera records to, right?
 
I've been hearing people saying that they don't support 1080p60, but there is no technical reason. Cards only see "data" so as long as the bit rate is not too fast it doesn't matter what the format is.

If a card can write 1080i60 at 100Mb/s the it can write 1080p60 at 100Mb/s
 
Oh, and that video shows that the PX-270 has a built in lens cover like Sony uses. Something I'm amazed Panasonic hasn't been doing for years.

This is looking like it might be a nice camera, although I noticed what looked like the same flaky focusing as the HPX250 when zooming fast in that video.

http://youtu.be/dVBiUI32Ur0?t=2m21s
 
This camera looks interesting. Lets hope Panasonic has decided to put some energy into the lens and specifically the zoom servo motors. The almost start-stop feeling from using a zoom controller instead of soft landings is keeping me away from Panasonics in this class of camera. The XF300 is so much better in this area. After all, this is a video camera not a film camera right?
 
Here's an article that states the micro p2 cards will not do 1080/50p or 60P, or at least not guarantee it:

http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/594-panasonic-showing-microp2-cards-and-kit-at-nab


The last line of the article:

MicroP2 cards will guarantee data writing up to class200 (except 1080/50p,60p) mode of AVC-ULTRA,
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Seems silly to make a new family of codec, then offer a cost saving memory card that doesn't work with it.
Unless there's a class 100 1080/50-60p?

edit - Looking at a Panasonic AVC Ultra graphic, it seems there's an AVC Ultra class 100 codec that does do 1080/50P or 60P at 222mbps, and a class 200 that does the same at 452mbps. Perhaps this is what is causing the confusion. So maybe the micro P2 cards can do 1080/50-60P on class 100?

http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales_o/p2/AVC-ULTRA_obverview_rev1.0.pdf
 
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I read that RedShark Article as saying micro P2 won't do 1080p50/60 at AVCIntra200, but doesn't speak to what other bit rates can do. It also appears that Intra 200 will be optional on the PX270. Personally, I like the sound of LongG50 as a good compromise between quality and file size, with the downside of more horsepower being required for editing.
 
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