Problem with in camera playback of edited .MOV files?

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dbrooksf

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I just switched to Nikon (D5100) from Canon (T1i) and have a question about playback of .MOV files. I'm not able to playback .MOV files on my camera after editing the file on my computer, and exporting it back to the SD card as another .MOV file. I even tried to save the file with same file name as the original, but in playback mode when trying to view the file, the error message "cannot display this file" shows up.



The reason I'd like to play back edited .MOV files is so that I can watch them, in HD, on my large screen TV. Simply, I'd like to be able to use the camera as a portable HD player of .MOV files.



I'm assuming that when the D5100 creates the .MOV file, it also creates certain attributes within that file, which allow the camera to recognize and play the file. Is there any way to bring these attributes (whatever they are??) into a self created .MOV file. Or is there something else here I'm missing? My Canon t1i saved a separate .THM file which I was always able to bring back with the newly edited file and play it back on the camera.


Any help would be much appreciated!!
 
.MOV is simply a temporal data container. The COmpressor/DECompressor used to encode the data is key. So you might have a .mov file which contains .h264 encoded data or sorenson or animation or Motion Jpeg or...

What codec does your camera use to create the data for your .mov file? That information can be looked up as it is always present in the .mov file.
 
craigbowman said:
.MOV is simply a temporal data container. The COmpressor/DECompressor used to encode the data is key. So you might have a .mov file which contains .h264 encoded data or sorenson or animation or Motion Jpeg or...

What codec does your camera use to create the data for your .mov file? That information can be looked up as it is always present in the .mov file.
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I don't know how to determine the codec for my camera, but I'll do some research and try to figure it out. I'm a newbie at this stuff. I'll report back if I figure it out.

Does anyone else have any idea what the codec is for Nikon D5100?
 
The D7000 uses h264. Pretty sure the D5100 is the same.

To find out, open a camera original file in QuickTime 7 and do a "get info." I will show codec and other info. You'll also want to approximate the bitrate so you are sure the camera can handle the data. Experiment with higher bitrates to see what the camera can handle.
 
matthew77 said:
The D7000 uses h264. Pretty sure the D5100 is the same.

To find out, open a camera original file in QuickTime 7 and do a "get info." I will show codec and other info. You'll also want to approximate the bitrate so you are sure the camera can handle the data. Experiment with higher bitrates to see what the camera can handle.
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Thanks, Matthew. You are correct, the .MOV file is h.264. I also adjusted the bitrate using Quicktime Pro to match one of the files straight from my camera (1536 kbps), but couldn't get it to recognize the file. I'll continue to try additional bitrates to see if I can get it to work.
 
dbrooksf said:
Thanks, Matthew. You are correct, the .MOV file is h.264. I also adjusted the bitrate using Quicktime Pro to match one of the files straight from my camera (1536 kbps), but couldn't get it to recognize the file. I'll continue to try additional bitrates to see if I can get it to work.
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Also make sure the resolution and frame rate match. And be sure to preserve the folder structure on the card. Put it in the same folder where the camera is set to record.
 
matthew77 said:
Also make sure the resolution and frame rate match. And be sure to preserve the folder structure on the card. Put it in the same folder where the camera is set to record.
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Okay, so I tried multiple bitrates (averaging aruond 19,600 - similar to other .MOV files straight from my D5100) and made sure the resolution (1920x1080) and frame rate (29.97) matched original files, but never got it to work. There must be something else embedded in the file that I can't match.

I also transfered a movie, with no editing, from my camera to my computer and back to the camera, to make sure the file transfer process wasn't the culprit. The movie was readable on my camera after transfer. Then, I removed that movie and changed the file name of my edited movie to match the movie just created by the camera, but it still wasn't readable by the camera.

Looks like I'm out of options for now. Thanks for your recommendations!
 
Why make things so diffucult???

Why make things so diffucult???

Why are you making so difficult? Just invest in a cheap media player you can get ones which play 1080p HD files for about £20
 
matthew77 said:
Good point. AppleTV is $99. But there are better, cheaper ones.
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Thanks for the info...it looks like that's the option I'll have to explore. The reason I wanted to use my camera is to minimize the amount of gear while traveling. I'll try to find something small and portable, that has 1080 capabilities.
 
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