J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
With all due respect; lets get back on topic.
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With all due respect; lets get back on topic.
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Post your XL2 Footage
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Rich Lee
I shoot Pirates.
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
aight, so i went to a rental place today and they had an xl2 i could play with so i got a tape and messed around for a little bit. They had a 14x lens on it, with a big **** off mattebox with a huge follow focus system, and a gigantic frickin battery pack, and a huge quick release gizmo. The thing was heavy! I never used that lens before and with that follow focus thing attached, and how heavy it was, i was havin a hard time focusing and exposing the lens.
anyway, im not posting any footage, cause that might kill my server. but i have some stills. If i had more time with camera i would get some better results. Some shots are a little grainy. I think i might rent it this weekend, without all that **** on it. i also did some color correct in after effect 6.5. No magic bullet, i was using the new built in color correction tool.
Oh, and the guy who was the Iraqi in that short "In The Name Of God" was there and asked me take a couple shots of him.
The only settings i can tell you that were on the camera at the time are...
24p
16/9
other then that i have no idea. sorry.
aight, so i went to a rental place today and they had an xl2 i could play with so i got a tape and messed around for a little bit. They had a 14x lens on it, with a big **** off mattebox with a huge follow focus system, and a gigantic frickin battery pack, and a huge quick release gizmo. The thing was heavy! I never used that lens before and with that follow focus thing attached, and how heavy it was, i was havin a hard time focusing and exposing the lens.
anyway, im not posting any footage, cause that might kill my server. but i have some stills. If i had more time with camera i would get some better results. Some shots are a little grainy. I think i might rent it this weekend, without all that **** on it. i also did some color correct in after effect 6.5. No magic bullet, i was using the new built in color correction tool.
Oh, and the guy who was the Iraqi in that short "In The Name Of God" was there and asked me take a couple shots of him.
The only settings i can tell you that were on the camera at the time are...
24p
16/9
other then that i have no idea. sorry.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
Thanks for posting these Rich. How did the 24p look 'in motion'. I dont know, Im not seeing the magic. Im trying real hard here. It just looks like VIDEO.
Thanks for posting these Rich. How did the 24p look 'in motion'. I dont know, Im not seeing the magic. Im trying real hard here. It just looks like VIDEO.
Rich Lee
I shoot Pirates.
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
hey John, the 24p looked good. i'd like to mess around a bit more with the camera. Its really early for me to tell, but the raw footage reminds me alot of the footage that i was getting with the xl1s i had last year, but with more detail. I dont think this camera had any of the cine-gamma fuctions turned on. Also, my color correct on these images may not be helping it out much.
Although, i do think the 3rd image down has a nice filmic look.
The camera itself seemed pretty slick, all the buttons felt much nicer then the xl1. very smooth.
hey John, the 24p looked good. i'd like to mess around a bit more with the camera. Its really early for me to tell, but the raw footage reminds me alot of the footage that i was getting with the xl1s i had last year, but with more detail. I dont think this camera had any of the cine-gamma fuctions turned on. Also, my color correct on these images may not be helping it out much.
Although, i do think the 3rd image down has a nice filmic look.
The camera itself seemed pretty slick, all the buttons felt much nicer then the xl1. very smooth.
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
..hmmm , im not digging it (film look) either, I think the camera is a cool cam with a great image, but as far as film like imagery.. i agree that i havent seen anything that doesnt look like video to me come from it yet. it seems every time someone has footage or a shot.. its always something about maybe the gamma not working, or not turned on.. not that i really care one way or the other, but im just still waiting to be impressed by its filmlike asthetics.
thanks for the shots though rich! this thread might still live after all
..hmmm , im not digging it (film look) either, I think the camera is a cool cam with a great image, but as far as film like imagery.. i agree that i havent seen anything that doesnt look like video to me come from it yet. it seems every time someone has footage or a shot.. its always something about maybe the gamma not working, or not turned on.. not that i really care one way or the other, but im just still waiting to be impressed by its filmlike asthetics.
thanks for the shots though rich! this thread might still live after all
- not sure why.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
Exactly my thoughts Neil. The empahasis thus far seems to be a very VIDEO looking image. (Not that theres anything wrong with that 
)
Exactly my thoughts Neil. The empahasis thus far seems to be a very VIDEO looking image. (Not that theres anything wrong with that
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LOL ..you need to get a little "tm" thingy like terry is always using for your: "not that theres anything wrong with that."
i think i need a catch phrase too. i say "anyway.." alot and im always typing multiple dots everywhere.. hmmm.. i have said that something "bites dog butt" a couple times too. but i need something to really cinch it up.. you know.. something with that zing
anyhow ..alot of people would argue that the XL2 DOES look filmlike, but ...im just not seeing it. it just looks video to me. im not biased.. just going by what i see, am i missing something ? :-/ ..then again alot of people also argued that the PD150 was filmic...
LOL ..you need to get a little "tm" thingy like terry is always using for your: "not that theres anything wrong with that."
i think i need a catch phrase too. i say "anyway.." alot and im always typing multiple dots everywhere.. hmmm.. i have said that something "bites dog butt" a couple times too. but i need something to really cinch it up.. you know.. something with that zing
anyhow ..alot of people would argue that the XL2 DOES look filmlike, but ...im just not seeing it. it just looks video to me. im not biased.. just going by what i see, am i missing something ? :-/ ..then again alot of people also argued that the PD150 was filmic...
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
Totally.
I am not biased at all and welcome the Xl2 with Open Arms (Power to the DV FIlmmaker!)... <<<<<<<<<<< Look! Little dots!
I just remember seeing the DVX footage for the first time and just going NO F'N WAY! What I have seen so far has been wonderful looking video clarity but damn it, someone show us the goods! When can we see the 24p, Cine blah blah ?
Totally.
I am not biased at all and welcome the Xl2 with Open Arms (Power to the DV FIlmmaker!)... <<<<<<<<<<< Look! Little dots!
I just remember seeing the DVX footage for the first time and just going NO F'N WAY! What I have seen so far has been wonderful looking video clarity but damn it, someone show us the goods! When can we see the 24p, Cine blah blah ?
Gary_McClurg
Well-known member
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
The real question is when will Panasonic bring out the new camera.
The real question is when will Panasonic bring out the new camera.
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=XL2;num=1095718263;start=30#32 date=09/25/04 at 09:55:41]Totally.
I am not biased at all and welcome the Xl2 with Open Arms (Power to the DV FIlmmaker!)... <<<<<<<<<<< Look! Little dots!
I just remember seeing the DVX footage for the first time and just going NO F'N WAY! What I have seen so far has been wonderful looking video clarity but damn it, someone show us the goods! When can we see the 24p, Cine blah blah ?[/quote]
I second that.
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=XL2;num=1095718263;start=30#32 date=09/25/04 at 09:55:41]Totally.
I am not biased at all and welcome the Xl2 with Open Arms (Power to the DV FIlmmaker!)... <<<<<<<<<<< Look! Little dots!
I just remember seeing the DVX footage for the first time and just going NO F'N WAY! What I have seen so far has been wonderful looking video clarity but damn it, someone show us the goods! When can we see the 24p, Cine blah blah ?[/quote]
I second that.
G
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Re: Post your XL2 Footage
Just got back from my local TV supply dealer where I checked out both the XL2 and the Panasonic DVX-100a for the first time. Here's my initial response (having never owned either):
The XL2 footage looks freakin' incredible, especially at the 16:9 ratio. Also, the fact that most everything is knob or switch driven compared to the clunky Panasonic menu is a huge plus. As far as nailing that "filmic" look, it was easily on par with the Panasonic, or better.
Now I've just got to decide which to get: an XL1 (they're cheap now with the release of the XL2), a DVX100a, or the XL2. Main concern is, do I really want to wait 4-5 months to save the dough for the 2?
Just got back from my local TV supply dealer where I checked out both the XL2 and the Panasonic DVX-100a for the first time. Here's my initial response (having never owned either):
The XL2 footage looks freakin' incredible, especially at the 16:9 ratio. Also, the fact that most everything is knob or switch driven compared to the clunky Panasonic menu is a huge plus. As far as nailing that "filmic" look, it was easily on par with the Panasonic, or better.
Now I've just got to decide which to get: an XL1 (they're cheap now with the release of the XL2), a DVX100a, or the XL2. Main concern is, do I really want to wait 4-5 months to save the dough for the 2?
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Hows thats switch driven iris compared to say the clunky old school incremental iris wheel on the DVX. When you where messing around with the cine gamma, did you remember your settings from the sliding scale readout? The numbers used in the DVX'S ancient menu system is so hard for me to remember. Not to mention the cool XL2 non line level swithcable xlr inputs. I would pay extra for those features to.
Hows thats switch driven iris compared to say the clunky old school incremental iris wheel on the DVX. When you where messing around with the cine gamma, did you remember your settings from the sliding scale readout? The numbers used in the DVX'S ancient menu system is so hard for me to remember. Not to mention the cool XL2 non line level swithcable xlr inputs. I would pay extra for those features to.
Antoine_Fabi
Well-known member
Re: Post your XL2 Footage
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"The real question is when will Panasonic bring out the new camera. "
dixit Gary McClurg
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they have no choice now, they must release something soon...and i really hope they will.
the XL2 image is so cleen it is scaring !!! NO NOISE
...and yes it can look like film, just as the DVX but much much cleaner and with higher resolution.
...and the new Sony HDV is coming very soon.
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"The real question is when will Panasonic bring out the new camera. "
dixit Gary McClurg
============================
they have no choice now, they must release something soon...and i really hope they will.
the XL2 image is so cleen it is scaring !!! NO NOISE
...and yes it can look like film, just as the DVX but much much cleaner and with higher resolution.
...and the new Sony HDV is coming very soon.
G
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I didn't really mess around with the cinegamma settings, given that I'm still kind of a newbie at this and didn't know what they were! I do now, though, and will check them out the next time I go down there.
Plainly put, I'm sold on the XL2. It looks sharper, the controls are tighter (especially the manual focus ring... and the whole barrell rings complaint? Remember, this is the STOCK lense. I imagine Canon will make one that has them later.), and it has TRUE 16:9, which looks amazing. Oh, and I love the iris switch. Super easy to use.
I'm sold. Now I just gotta scrape together 4,000 more.
I didn't really mess around with the cinegamma settings, given that I'm still kind of a newbie at this and didn't know what they were! I do now, though, and will check them out the next time I go down there.
Plainly put, I'm sold on the XL2. It looks sharper, the controls are tighter (especially the manual focus ring... and the whole barrell rings complaint? Remember, this is the STOCK lense. I imagine Canon will make one that has them later.), and it has TRUE 16:9, which looks amazing. Oh, and I love the iris switch. Super easy to use.
I'm sold. Now I just gotta scrape together 4,000 more.