thisiswells
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What kind of software on a PC even supports DVCProHD at the FCP level with variable framerates, 1080p, etc.?Jarred Land said:
The writing is on the wall. They should port this over to Mac...
POLL: Would you buy Serious Magic HD Rack?
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The writing is on the wall. They should port this over to Mac...
Anders Holck
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Barry Green said:
Hmmm....wouldn't you need one hell of a laptop to fit both a pixel-accurate monitor, a waveform, a vectorscope and a quality assurance box and other panes onto the LCD scrren?:shocked:
Barry_Green
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Might run for DV mode, but definitely not HD or HDV. I think the screen's too small too, I think DV Rack requires 1024 wide and the ogo's only 800 wide.thisiswells said:
Gopher_Greene
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thisiswells said:
If I remeber right DV Rack needs a 1.4 Ghz CPU, this is only a 1 Ghz
ddh
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I've thought seriously of getting a PC laptop for Serious Magic DV Rack and Ultra. Wouldn't you need a least a 3 gigger CPU (more like a 3.4 intel or 3.0 AMD chipset) to be able to capture HD? If that is the case, you looking at about $2,500 to $3,000 as an addition to whatever else you use as a tool. I edit on a Mac, so, it's an added expense on top of the camera. That's a whole lot for me at this juncture, so, I'll wait and see what comes out of the hopper!
Anders, take a Powerbook and attach a second monitor to it via DVI, could even be a 30" Cinema Display. Hey, it works, technically speaking. However, this is no comment as to whether such a setup really makes sense.Anders Holck said:
Ah, BTW, I am also on a Mac and would love to have a Mac version
Unless FCP6 includes those features - hopefully.
Best, Pe.
soren k jensen
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dv rack 100 arf carse
dv rack 100 arf carse
yess, even as a mac user i've set a pc laprop aside just for that purpose, can't wait to see the sw ready.... or to use a hvx in the real world
best, soren
dv rack 100 arf carse
yess, even as a mac user i've set a pc laprop aside just for that purpose, can't wait to see the sw ready.... or to use a hvx in the real world
best, soren
Malcolm Wright
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I don't even have a Mac right now (although I plan to get one specifically to use FCP with the HVX200) - and the attitude of the Serious Magic people towards Mac offends me too!
Sounds to me as if they are trying to alienate a good portion of their market, and that they are succeeding.
Certainly doesn't sound like a software company that will give much of a damn about you once you've coughed up for their product - if what I have read on this page is anything to go by...
M.
Sounds to me as if they are trying to alienate a good portion of their market, and that they are succeeding.
Certainly doesn't sound like a software company that will give much of a damn about you once you've coughed up for their product - if what I have read on this page is anything to go by...
M.
MrBirdBoy
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I think sometimes the thought is " Mac is only 6% of the market"
Well 5% of the people control 85% of the worlds economy. People running Word or Surfing AOL at home are not their market. It's everyone who has chimed in on this thread. Sorry to start the MAC'off - but it seems to not only be me who's a bit bummed out.
Steve
Well 5% of the people control 85% of the worlds economy. People running Word or Surfing AOL at home are not their market. It's everyone who has chimed in on this thread. Sorry to start the MAC'off - but it seems to not only be me who's a bit bummed out.
Steve
Barry_Green
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The Mac holds a very tiny market share overall (around 2%, not 6%). However, in video apps it holds a proportionally larger share. At one point Jarred said that 82% of DVXUsers were PC based, and 18% Mac-based. That would imply that a DVX User was 9 times as likely to be using a Mac as the public at large is. Still not a huge percentage, but definitely something more to be reckoned with.
I expect that the HVX will have even a larger percentage of Mac users; I know it's already converted Jarred and I'm only waiting for MWSF to see which way to jump.
I expect that the HVX will have even a larger percentage of Mac users; I know it's already converted Jarred and I'm only waiting for MWSF to see which way to jump.
Malcolm Wright
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Barry_Green said:
I'd say your hunch is right, if I'm an example. I'll be buying a mac almost solely because of the HVX.
I held off for years because my girlfriend bought one of the dud G3s back in 2000, and Apple never fixed it for her - gave her the run around for years: she limped along with a machine that crashed up to a dozen times a day.
There is another factor: Shake not being supported on windows anymore. I hate to cave into the tactics employed by Apple: buying Shake and discontinuing windows updates and support - I think its despicable... but I don't really have a choice.
Oh well.
M.
well shake is getting pretty powerful in the mac world and alot of movies are now using macs to make fx (king kong i.e.)..
but yes.. i switched only because of the HVX. even worse.. i switched 2x. A few months back when i heard vegas wont support it i switched, but that switch failed cause it was such a shell shock and i think i got a lemon.. three weeks ago when i learned for sure vegas was bailing on the HVX.. i switched again, and its been alot easier.
It's still hard though.. i mean i have been on PC's since 1982.. i ran BBS's via dialup on 1400baud modems then.. ascii and all, way before this internet stuff. So for me to through out those 20 years kinda hurts.
Good thing a few years ago when dvxuser was running off a unix box in my closet I learned some unix stuff.. so the new Mac OS is a little better to me.
but yes.. i switched only because of the HVX. even worse.. i switched 2x. A few months back when i heard vegas wont support it i switched, but that switch failed cause it was such a shell shock and i think i got a lemon.. three weeks ago when i learned for sure vegas was bailing on the HVX.. i switched again, and its been alot easier.
It's still hard though.. i mean i have been on PC's since 1982.. i ran BBS's via dialup on 1400baud modems then.. ascii and all, way before this internet stuff. So for me to through out those 20 years kinda hurts.
Good thing a few years ago when dvxuser was running off a unix box in my closet I learned some unix stuff.. so the new Mac OS is a little better to me.
Malcolm Wright
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Jarred Land said:
You're right, Macs are popping up here and there in the VFX world, but we used Linux stations to run Shake at Weta on King Kong.
Unix rocks: I'm sure you'll love Mac OS. That is one thing I'm looking forward to when I get my Mac...M.
chakamonkey
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Reality Check
Reality Check
I also talked to someone over at Serious Magic about an upgrade pack supporting DVCPRO-HD. They made it clear that it is not trivial but they are considering it. While they are chewing that decision over, I am likely to purchase a new Mac laptop (depending on announcements at MacWorld.) But I don't begrudge Serious Magic. They have to focus on their core competency and that doesn't extend to the Mac & Unix platforms. So not only is there a request to support DVCPRO-HD, but also port their products to Macs. I think we are overestimating the size of their company and the potential revenue streams.
As to my philosophy, I'm not for OS zealotry. I just want the best tool for the job irrespective of brand. Feed them and they will come. :cheesy:
Full disclosure: Mac dual G5, FCP/Shake; AMD dual core w/ WinXP Pro x64; Intel dual w/ Gentoo Linux.
Reality Check
I also talked to someone over at Serious Magic about an upgrade pack supporting DVCPRO-HD. They made it clear that it is not trivial but they are considering it. While they are chewing that decision over, I am likely to purchase a new Mac laptop (depending on announcements at MacWorld.) But I don't begrudge Serious Magic. They have to focus on their core competency and that doesn't extend to the Mac & Unix platforms. So not only is there a request to support DVCPRO-HD, but also port their products to Macs. I think we are overestimating the size of their company and the potential revenue streams.
As to my philosophy, I'm not for OS zealotry. I just want the best tool for the job irrespective of brand. Feed them and they will come. :cheesy:
Full disclosure: Mac dual G5, FCP/Shake; AMD dual core w/ WinXP Pro x64; Intel dual w/ Gentoo Linux.
Jarred,
What do you know about how HDVRack records the MPEG2 HDV to disk? Is the quality equivalent to what goes to tape? I use DVRack as a redundant system in studio conditions, but tape is still rolling at this point.
I'm curious about your thoughts on how the DVCProHD / 50 product would contribute to tapeless workflow in file formats friendly to PC users.
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What do you know about how HDVRack records the MPEG2 HDV to disk? Is the quality equivalent to what goes to tape? I use DVRack as a redundant system in studio conditions, but tape is still rolling at this point.
I'm curious about your thoughts on how the DVCProHD / 50 product would contribute to tapeless workflow in file formats friendly to PC users.
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