That's a biggie, pass for me then. Wondering about fs5 raw future implementation though.
FS7: PMW FS5 Announced.
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I know all that (well, not all- didn't know it will be paid) but it still doesn't stop me wondering
Grug
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Bugger. Well that writes the camera off for me. Decent 10-bit without excessive compression, is the minimum level of quality I'm willing to put up with on professional jobs these days.
Once you start shooting and grading 16-bit linear raw with the F5, it's pretty hard to go back to anything less.
Ebrahim Saadawi
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The speedbooster will make it equivalent to FF, giving the image of a 24-105mm on a 5D if you know it. equivalent to 16-70mm on a s35. And yes F2.8 iris.
You glue the SB and consider it an E-mount lens,
APS-C 16-70mm f/2.8 OSS.
(the Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS is similar but the added 55-70mm reach is a benefit of the previous combo)
sunnyjimfilms
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What does it output via the SDI. Is that 10bit?
Exactly. Once you go beyond 8bit it's extremely hard to go back.
alaskacameradude
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Exactly what you said! My added idea is that if Sony's 'clear zoom'
works as good as they say (which remains to be seen)
then you would be able to go beyond 70mm on the long end!
alaskacameradude
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Post #100 only talks about what it outputs via HDMI. It says
nothing about SDI.
sunnyjimfilms
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My thoughts too...
Alpha Beta Omega
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The SDI should output 10-bit 4:2:2 just like most other Sony cameras since EX1 up to 1080p30.
sunnyjimfilms
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I'm pretty sure neither the FS100 nor FS700 outputted 10 bit 422.
Alpha Beta Omega
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Yes, but these were not XDCAM series cameras.
sunnyjimfilms
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Ahh I see
At this price point, how impactful is variable ND image degradation likely to be? The options with filtration are impressive, but going to be quickly useless to me if there's a lot of resolution loss. With experience using variable ND in the stills world, I was never impressed with even the expensive options. Opinions on that?
andykwilkinson
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Whilst we're on that subject, I REALLY do not see why Sony put an XDCAM badge on the FS5. It has no legacy XDCAM EX or XDCAM HD codecs on board. It's confusing at best... and deceptive marketing, IMHO.
That being said, it has not stopped me pre-ordering the FS5 on Friday as I really needed something much lighter, smaller and cheaper than an FS7 and wanted to upgrade my C100. The C100 Mk II is just too incremental an upgrade over it - and I've decided the C300 MkII is just far too much money to spend on a camera in this ever fast changing environment as so many 4K aquistion cameras emerge
The FS5 looks like it'll be an absolutely superb, compact 10-bit 4.2.2 1080p cam with it's 50 Mbps XAVC - and has what i would consider "entry level" 4K (well QFHD) for the (currently) rare times I might need that resolution in the corporate work I do (where my Sony PMW-300 is the other main tool).
The FS5 ticks so many boxes for what I wanted and need. Sure, it's not perfect (and the launch price point seems rather higher than I would have expected, especially relative to the C100 MkII ...and even compared to Sony's own FS7) but that did not stop me ordering one either. Sure, I I've looked hard at the FS7 but the FS5 suits MY particular needs far better. So now the waiting begins - let's hope I have it by November!
Maybe the paid for true 4K and raw output will make it partially future proof - if and when that emerges, something I might well not buy anyway - but how many cameras really are that future proof (especially when companies like Sony seem to spit out new models every few months…).
That being said, it has not stopped me pre-ordering the FS5 on Friday as I really needed something much lighter, smaller and cheaper than an FS7 and wanted to upgrade my C100. The C100 Mk II is just too incremental an upgrade over it - and I've decided the C300 MkII is just far too much money to spend on a camera in this ever fast changing environment as so many 4K aquistion cameras emerge
The FS5 looks like it'll be an absolutely superb, compact 10-bit 4.2.2 1080p cam with it's 50 Mbps XAVC - and has what i would consider "entry level" 4K (well QFHD) for the (currently) rare times I might need that resolution in the corporate work I do (where my Sony PMW-300 is the other main tool).
The FS5 ticks so many boxes for what I wanted and need. Sure, it's not perfect (and the launch price point seems rather higher than I would have expected, especially relative to the C100 MkII ...and even compared to Sony's own FS7) but that did not stop me ordering one either. Sure, I I've looked hard at the FS7 but the FS5 suits MY particular needs far better. So now the waiting begins - let's hope I have it by November!
Maybe the paid for true 4K and raw output will make it partially future proof - if and when that emerges, something I might well not buy anyway - but how many cameras really are that future proof (especially when companies like Sony seem to spit out new models every few months…).
Alpha Beta Omega
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To me it's pretty obvious that if the variable ND filter on the FS5 was just as good as the filter wheel filters they would have just used the variable one.
I am concerned about possible vignetting on the image when going up to 64th and 128th on the variable ND. However, from the sample video from Sony, I've seen it looks ok. Having an internal variable ND, I don't imagine it would allow the image sensor to perform any different or get in the way of allowing it to perform how it is suppose to be. It being an internal variable ND, it reduces the risk of filming and having dust/ finger smudges on the filter. I can only assume it is mostly beneficial, than a headache.
Lenilenapi
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I'm curious, Will the variable ND let you change ND while shooting? That would be an advantage when using steppy lenses like the Canons.