Please stop me

Nasser

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Please stop me buying the DVX100B :2vrolijk_08:, I own XH-A1 however most of my shotting is for SD , I may blindfolds buy a DVX100B unless someone will tell me this is normal to have both :thumbsup:
 
Sell your XH-A1 and buy the new HVX-200B. It's the DVX on steroids.
Dont get the DVX100B. In two years you will regret buying a SD Camcorder. Or maybe in two days.
 
Since you don't need the HD, my decision would only be based on how much I can get from the sale of A1 versus the cost of DVX. If it is significant enough go get the dvx.:grin:
 
I guess I don't understand. Why do you not just shoot SD with the XH-A1? It will look at least as good as the DVX.

Am I missing something?
 
Unless you are unhappy with the A1's SD performance, then I would just keep it and shoot in SD mode when needed. The disadvantage with the DVX is that it only does 4x3 SD. I would keep the A1 because you can at least shoot and edit in 16x9 SD. In a few more years the percentage of widescreen/HDTV's is going to increase.

If you wanted something with more options then as berlinfool suggested, there is also the HVX-200a. If I were going to be spending that much cash, then I would go with the HPX-170 instead. Lighter weight, more variable frame rate options, and a 5-year warranty. Has the same chips as the 200a, different lens, but still a Leica, and of course P2. Should be nearly identical picture quality between the two, although we won't know until they're both available.

Do you need something that the A1 doesn't offer? Do you not need HD at all? Does the DVX do something that the A1 can't? Or, why not ask yourself what the A1 can do that the DVX can't? You could make a side-by-side list comparison between the two.

If you don't yet have the ability to edit the A1's HD footage, then assess when you will. No use selling the camera if in 6 months you could afford a computer upgrade to allow HD post production. Have you edited anything in HD and downconverted? I have, and when I popped the SD DVD from downconverted A1 footage into my PS3, it looked nearly as good as the HDV source footage. Of course part of the magic is the PS3's awesome upconverter. However, you still need good 16x9 footage for an upconverting player to use. You can find cheap ($40 - $100) upconverting DVD players at about any electronics store, so the cost is not necessarily as steep as going out and getting a blu-ray player or PS3.

Are you shooting video for a business or as a freelancer? I shoot a lot of freelance 4x3 SD material with my A1 (weddings), and have not had any complaints. You need a bit more light in a reception hall than with the DVX, but that is not difficult to manage. Also, if you shoot events or films, don't discount the A1's lens. It has a longer zoom to wide range than the DVX. This is very handy for both events, when you are stuck on a balcony or back of a room, as well as films when you need a little more control of depth-of-field without the aid of an adapter.

Another thing to consider if you do shoot freelance -- that you may someday get a call from someone who wants some HD footage shot for whatever reasons, and you could then offer that with the A1.

Just my 2-cents.
 
Unless you are unhappy with the A1's SD performance, then I would just keep it and shoot in SD mode when needed. The disadvantage with the DVX is that it only does 4x3 SD. I would keep the A1 because you can at least shoot and edit in 16x9 SD. In a few more years the percentage of widescreen/HDTV's is going to increase.

If you wanted something with more options then as berlinfool suggested, there is also the HVX-200a. If I were going to be spending that much cash, then I would go with the HPX-170 instead. Lighter weight, more variable frame rate options, and a 5-year warranty. Has the same chips as the 200a, different lens, but still a Leica, and of course P2. Should be nearly identical picture quality between the two, although we won't know until they're both available.

Do you need something that the A1 doesn't offer? Do you not need HD at all? Does the DVX do something that the A1 can't? Or, why not ask yourself what the A1 can do that the DVX can't? You could make a side-by-side list comparison between the two.

If you don't yet have the ability to edit the A1's HD footage, then assess when you will. No use selling the camera if in 6 months you could afford a computer upgrade to allow HD post production. Have you edited anything in HD and downconverted? I have, and when I popped the SD DVD from downconverted A1 footage into my PS3, it looked nearly as good as the HDV source footage. Of course part of the magic is the PS3's awesome upconverter. However, you still need good 16x9 footage for an upconverting player to use. You can find cheap ($40 - $100) upconverting DVD players at about any electronics store, so the cost is not necessarily as steep as going out and getting a blu-ray player or PS3.

Are you shooting video for a business or as a freelancer? I shoot a lot of freelance 4x3 SD material with my A1 (weddings), and have not had any complaints. You need a bit more light in a reception hall than with the DVX, but that is not difficult to manage. Also, if you shoot events or films, don't discount the A1's lens. It has a longer zoom to wide range than the DVX. This is very handy for both events, when you are stuck on a balcony or back of a room, as well as films when you need a little more control of depth-of-field without the aid of an adapter.

Another thing to consider if you do shoot freelance -- that you may someday get a call from someone who wants some HD footage shot for whatever reasons, and you could then offer that with the A1.

Just my 2-cents.

Thank, very convincing :thumbsup:, however I would like to know your down converting experience with XH-A1 to SD , I mean your workflow and gears :violin:
 
keep the xh-a1 around, sooner or later (probably sooner) you'll start shooting in hi-def.
 
Ask yourself if you REALLY need it.
The A1 is a good camera. It does most jobs well.
Be honest with yourself. What is the real motivation to get it?
A clients request? Or just the craving for this sexy but a bit outdated technical object?
 
Yeah - it's nice how you can tweak the DVX.
As far as I heard the A1 is somewhat more limited.
BUT there is also Apple's 'Color' or Red Giant's Magic Bullet Looks
Both programs allow you to do in post which you didn't do in-camera.
They procduce amazing results.
 
I have both, and break out my dvx all the time. Maybe its just the familiarity of the darn thing. I just love its rich colors. But the vast variety of presets you can save for the canon really helps for quick set ups.
 
I have the A1 but i just bought the dvx cuz i love the colors. I think you should keep your A1 and buy a used dvx. That way your investment will be solid.
 
Yes. What's the issue? The SD on the Canon and the picture on the DVX (resolution and color) are very compatible when you use some of the presets on this very board. Yes. "as good." Is my fly open or something? What is going on?
 
Yes. What's the issue? The SD on the Canon and the picture on the DVX (resolution and color) are very compatible when you use some of the presets on this very board. Yes. "as good." Is my fly open or something? What is going on?

Fly open? :huh:
 
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