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yokotas13 said:
nope. but the 1600 and 2400 camera owners, are normally older. thus know how to read, and search, and try and find what they are looking for. rather than new kids that are used to not looking, and having everything spoon fed. Two distinct demographics. Not saying all the rebel cats are like that. but posts show they are mostly.
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Wow, I am not sure that is the right attitude.

I have taught video production at the Middle School, High School and College levels and yes, people who are new to things can be annoyingly lazy sometimes (I am sure everyone is on occasion). The advantage of politely sharing your expertise with them is that they will be extremely appreciative and we will have a stronger forum as a result. It is in all of our best interests to perpetuate our profession and dispel misinformation and bad practices.

When I first started coming to this forum, I was interested in taking my audio for interviews to a new level. MattinSTL, Wabbit and others politely answered my questions and all of my productions since have been better for it.

Remember that everything in the production world is based on your reputation and ability to get along with others. Most of my hiring decisions for freelancers are based on how good it is to work with the person. With the crews I hire, I always try to get the same people. I would rather choose someone who I can get along with and just direct them a little bit more since I have to see that person 100 days a year. Eventually they will be up at the level of the other person or surpass them due to consistent work and experience.

You never know where the next job is coming from or who the next hot producer is going to be.
 
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yokotas13 said:
nope. but the 1600 and 2400 camera owners, are normally older. thus know how to read, and search, and try and find what they are looking for. rather than new kids that are used to not looking, and having everything spoon fed.
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In my days, when I was young, we didn't have all them fancy schmansy things like asking and questions and whatchamacallits. We had to go out and search for OURSELVES! Young kids today, they don't know how to do that! All they know is "asking this" and "what is that" and "how do I do this"!
They should do what we did, and just search to see how other people already answered that and not bother us so we have to do it over and over again.

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Forget it! I'm tired of this conversation now. What were we talking about? I'm going home, help me up!

*ZzzZZzzzzZZZZzZ*!
 
yokotas13 said:
nope. but the 1600 and 2400 camera owners, are normally older. thus know how to read, and search, and try and find what they are looking for. rather than new kids that are used to not looking, and having everything spoon fed. Two distinct demographics. Not saying all the rebel cats are like that. but posts show they are mostly.
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I saw the same thing with the HVX when it came out.... a then 6000 dollar camera with p2 media in 2 and 4 GB flavors costing as much or more than a 7D...

This is nothing new. Only difference now is it happens more often. It is not exclusive to inexpensive cameras, nor camera discussion. It happens all over the internet.

Yes, some people don't search, or don't have great forum etiquette, etc. This is also nothing new and not exclusive to camera discussion forums.

Regardless, this is a *community*. And, we try to help out each other and look out for each other as much as possible. It is a place to learn, hang out, and share your experiences with your peers. We have high schoolers and we have Oscar award nominees, and Emmy award winners, etc... And, everyone in between.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Indeed many of our members who have gone on to be successful and knowledgeable in their fields started out asking the same ole' questions.

Now, one can pretend that they are above it all with their 1600 dollar camera (LOL) and look down upon those lowly others, or they can lead by example.

At any rate, the case you make is not unique to this camera, or to camera's at all... This is all nothing new. You can come to the conclusion that 700 dollars makes the difference between "pro" and "high school ignoramus" and creates x, y, and z problems on the forum if you like. but, it doesn't make it true. And, it certainly isn't anything that is going to aide in making this a more productive community. Feelings of superiority or inferiority are not valid ways to define a forum structure. Looking to build the forum structure based on practical needs and shortcomings, not emotional ones.

later,
Jason
 
i dont think you get it.
but its ok. you run the place, you dont have to:)


if anything, group the 7d and 5d into a forum, and put the rebel in its own. that makes more sense than the 7d and rebel together
 
I'll ditch all these DSLR's for the first one that comes out with no AGC
because actually they aaaallllll suck equally. :) :) :) Call me the camera flipper.

Its just a box with a sensor, no need to get attached to them and I think that's what a lot of people are doing.
 
I'm a photographer by trade, so the cameras mean alot. But by being ableto expand and do video, my income has tripled. I love video and everything about it.
 
Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm

yokotas13 said:
nope. but the 1600 and 2400 camera owners, are normally older. thus know how to read, and search, and try and find what they are looking for. rather than new kids that are used to not looking, and having everything spoon fed. Two distinct demographics. Not saying all the rebel cats are like that. but posts show they are mostly.
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So at 48 years old, having picked up a T2i to play around with and accompany my DVX-100a, I'm instantly part of the group that "mostly" doesn't search and doesn't have the sense to behave like an adult? I've read most of the top threads in this forum, and haven't seen such people, but I'll trust your judgment and assume that it's true.

If they're not people who think a 7d holds a dramatic edge over the T2i for video work (largely the point of DVXUser), and will therefore gladly help me discover what this new device can and cannot do, then I'm OK with being lumped in with such unsavory characters. I'm glad to admit that I'm a noob, and am junior to most everyone here, in most every regard. If having the T2i instead of the dramatically more highly regarded 7d (though I'm not sure where this is the case) makes me a "rebel cat," then so be it.

Cheers. - Tim
 
Depends on the professional, and what they're shooting. Many people find them perfectly adequate or even ideal. Others find them not ready yet. More than anything it depends on what you're trying to shoot.
 
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