Phillip Bloom buys an Epic
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jambredz
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yeh its funny how people can have all these opinions and don't know a thing about what projects he is working on, yet still dont have any notable work to show for themselves. When its quite likely their best work is nothng in comparison to his "ehh ok" work. Ah well...mouths are made for talking, i guess, while others will put out good work.
robmneilson
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This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have read on the internet...and I've read ALOT of stupid stuff on the internet. I'm not a big Phillip Bloom fan, but to make sure a broad statement about a legitimate cinema art form is madness.
philip bloom
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surely there are more interesting things to talk about in the world than this? Shaking my head at some of the things said here.
"Documentary is not a movie" Are you s**tting me???
haters will always hate. defending myself and my work depresses me and takes too much out of me hence i spend little time here these days. BTW imdb shows but the tiniest fraction of work that I actually do.
So basically i do what i enjoy doing and that is my work. most important thing. if it is not good enough for some, that is is fine and to be expected. c'est la vie!
BTW I also bought a new TV, it's big and what I choose to watch on it is up to me! If I choose to watch Glee on it that's my choice (I won't but you get my point!)
"Documentary is not a movie" Are you s**tting me???
haters will always hate. defending myself and my work depresses me and takes too much out of me hence i spend little time here these days. BTW imdb shows but the tiniest fraction of work that I actually do.
So basically i do what i enjoy doing and that is my work. most important thing. if it is not good enough for some, that is is fine and to be expected. c'est la vie!
BTW I also bought a new TV, it's big and what I choose to watch on it is up to me! If I choose to watch Glee on it that's my choice (I won't but you get my point!)
If I choose to watch Glee on it that's my choice (I won't but you get my point!)
Sure you won't, Philip...suuuuurrrrrrreeeeeeeee... :happy:
I've seen worse, but this is quite up there to be sure. As I've gotten older, I've found that I enjoy more documentary-ish works (books, movies, TV, ect) than I do fictional narratives.
Sorry I sent you this mate,thought it was interesting how stupid some people can be! I do think this forum can bring out the worst in people, me included.
robmneilson
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Seriously, I'll end up turning off most of the new narrative films Ill see on Netflix within the first 20 minutes, but I'll always give a doc more time to draw me in (for some unfair reason).
robmneilson
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Would love to get my hands on an epic! Feel free to write me into your will, incase something....untimely happens.
simonpwood
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surely there are more interesting things to talk about in the world than this? Shaking my head at some of the things said here.
"Documentary is not a movie" Are you s**tting me???
haters will always hate. defending myself and my work depresses me and takes too much out of me hence i spend little time here these days. BTW imdb shows but the tiniest fraction of work that I actually do.
So basically i do what i enjoy doing and that is my work. most important thing. if it is not good enough for some, that is is fine and to be expected. c'est la vie!
BTW I also bought a new TV, it's big and what I choose to watch on it is up to me! If I choose to watch Glee on it that's my choice (I won't but you get my point!)
As threads get locked here pretty quick I thought I better respond (as I was the one who raised the initial question about what is Phillip Bloom famous for). Perhaps my question did not articulate what I was thinking accurately? In any case I am not a 'hater' (whatever that is) and as stated it was a genuine question (because I was genuinely interested).
As to whether or not there are more interesting things to talk about in the world, yes there certainly are more interesting things. However the question was not without merit because certainly people in the film/video industry are interested in 'fame' to a degree, and certainly people who are in the public eye are of interest to the general public. I actually had no idea that he posted here.
As I have never used DSLR's I had a vague understanding that Philip Bloom was involved in them, and had a vague understanding that he is a filmmaker. I was also aware on some level that there are filmmaking tools that have his signature on them and so forth. The only thing I was not clear on was what films he had made. When I read the thread that he had bought an Epic camera the thought suddenly struck me that I knew of this famous filmmaker, had been reading about him for years, but I had no idea what films he had made. It was just a general question; no big deal.
Fame is an interesting thing though; especially in this instant age with people having more tools to be famous with at their disposal (through twitter and blogging and so forth). I guess questions about people who are already in the public eye are inevitable, no?
As Oscar Wilde said: the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
Wilbur Eddings
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With you there man.
At least you have the balls to use your real name - I'm so sick of being at the brunt of 'freedom of speech' that I use this pseudonym!
Rest assured that many of us value your artistic expression and input and are massively influenced by your work.
This wasnt hating but all fanboys around will eat people alive, it always ends like this.
Yes shooting documentary is not the same as shooting a movie and i dont see anything stupid about this but thats just me.
Yes shooting documentary is not the same as shooting a movie and i dont see anything stupid about this but thats just me.
Its irrelevant what you or i like, ive seen only one short film from Philip and id like to see more, where is hate here from me ?
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They do give Academy Awards for documentary films. That they don't follow the derivative, repetitive and formulaic structure of today's narrative studio films should be seen as a triumph and not a liability. If you haven't seen Shoah or Harlan County, USA or Crumb or any of the other myriad excellent documentary films that are out there, at least make a point to see Hearts of Darkness or Shaking the Cage for a little filmmakers-on-filmmakers taste of how good this art form can really be. Please don't insult documentary filmmakers by telling them that their work is less legitimate than what passes for movies in theaters nowadays.
Chris Adler
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That claim was never made. The claim was that documentary films are less cinematic and do not require traditional cinematic techniques to tell their story compared to a narrative film. While its true that there are some very visually rich documentaries, I'm sure you'll admit that most don't employ the same techniques a narrative film will require. You'll also rarely find a documentary that really cares about the quality of the visuals, lighting, staging the interviewers, etc. It seems most are quite the opposite and want things to feel raw and alive, not visually enhanced.
Sometimes people need to read before they get offended. Nobody said anything was less legitimate than anything else.
Make this argument over at MacGillivray-Freeman films or with the talents who use all manner of cinema equipment to bring you projects like Planet Earth. I would take further exception to the notion that documentary cinematographers don't care about the quality of the visuals, lighting or how their interviews look. This is a really narrow, bordering on ignorant, view of the craft. I concur that many documentary films do rely on some run-and-gun elements due to the subject or situation at-hand, but they are shot in those ways for a reason. At any rate, I think we should avoid over-generalizing and stereotyping an entire art-form if we can avoid doing so. Therefore, in the spirit of healing, I'll retract my comments about the attributes of modern, studio-level movies.
Have you seen Baraka? Have you seen any real Imax film? Did you know Roger Deakins started out shooting documentaries and attributes much of his technique to those origins?
VideoDP.NZ
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Oh my gosh I'm glad someone else feels the same way :happy:
Chris Adler
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Wow, no pleasing some people. I totally admit that some documentaries are stunning looking and the visual is as important as the subject matter. I've also states that there are documentaries that are run and gun, naturally lit, etc. which are clearly about the subject matter and you'd be hard pressed to consider those "cinematic".
Since my point has been entirely lost in everyone misreading and over-generalizing my comments in knee-jerk reactions I'll retract it. Long live Phillip Bloom!!
Since my point has been entirely lost in everyone misreading and over-generalizing my comments in knee-jerk reactions I'll retract it. Long live Phillip Bloom!!
Lumiere
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truly +1
Erik Naso
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Phillip is a teacher as well as a filmmaker. He travels all over the world helping people understand how to use DSLR's for filmmaking. What a great gig. He obviously is pretty good at it to make a living doing it.
My father is a college art teacher and he loves showing and opening peoples eyes to art and how to draw, paint and understand color. He also has made a good living doing it. Its his passion as well for Mr. Bloom. Why should people have such negative feelings towards him? Oh because he's good at it. Of course. :happy:
My father is a college art teacher and he loves showing and opening peoples eyes to art and how to draw, paint and understand color. He also has made a good living doing it. Its his passion as well for Mr. Bloom. Why should people have such negative feelings towards him? Oh because he's good at it. Of course. :happy:
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