Uwe Lansing
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720p50 looks fine but 1080p25 is pretty awful during the pan imo. Besides that there is a lot of aliasing in fhd.
Panning 'mud', reasons why and firmware update
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720p50 looks fine but 1080p25 is pretty awful during the pan imo. Besides that there is a lot of aliasing in fhd.
Thanks for posting. The 72050p looked perfectly usable to me, like Capice said. Had a play with the m/p jpeg and that held up pretty well too, looks fine. It's been mentioned earlier, that there really is no replacement for testing, but getting this footage before having the camera has certainly helped get some understanding of it's capabilities.
Good work, Andrew. Honestly, that doesn't look underexposed to me. That looks properly exposed. Nothing's clipping that shouldn't be at any given time, skin tones are properly exposed, etc etc.
And that might completely explain why the Heineken footage came out so extra clean, because the DP was exposing exactly how he should be.
Looking forward to more footage being exposed properly, but nothing will change my mind on takin' order of my two GH-1's. I miss this camera so much it's depressing.
And that might completely explain why the Heineken footage came out so extra clean, because the DP was exposing exactly how he should be.
Looking forward to more footage being exposed properly, but nothing will change my mind on takin' order of my two GH-1's. I miss this camera so much it's depressing.
TrueIndigo
Well-known member
Welcome back Kholi; look forward to seeing your tests. Can you tell us about your conclusions yet?
I just couldnt' find as much mud in my own footage as everyone else had. I did at first, but then it like... vanished or something? It was weird because I saw it al the time when I first got the camera, then didn't see it anymore when I started shooting tests with it. The Thrift store footage has what I'd consider overexposed shots, it was all 1080/24, but mud wasn't something I was seeing.
I could go and scrub the entire thing for muddy frames in the raw but I just wasn't seeing it on my end in those situations. However, the best shots that I ever got out of the camera were exposed properly ( go figure) which right now people are terming underexposing. I just see it as proper exposure myself.
In the end, I love this camera to death and I wish I hadn't gotten rid of my .JP one to make way for the US models.
I could go and scrub the entire thing for muddy frames in the raw but I just wasn't seeing it on my end in those situations. However, the best shots that I ever got out of the camera were exposed properly ( go figure) which right now people are terming underexposing. I just see it as proper exposure myself.
In the end, I love this camera to death and I wish I hadn't gotten rid of my .JP one to make way for the US models.
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Nice footage! Commanderspike, at the beginning of this thread you were obviously really bothered by the mud issue (that's why you started it). What are your impressions after playing with the GH1 more deeply. Does it still bother you so much? Would you recommend buying it? Any other comment/ conclusion after some experimenting?
commanderspike
Carbonite Member
I would recommend buying it, for sure.
There are tons of possibilities, tons of potential for nice footage without the 'mud' appearing. It really is a fantastic game changing camera and ENJOYABLE to use.
Whilst making the market video, not one frame was affected by corruption. I am impressed that the camera holds up so well for proper shooting.
BUT I am still wary of the problem and still hope it gets fixed, because the market footage was done at night, and was nearly all static.
No panning, no daylight, no fast shutter = no mud.
1st GH1 Narrative Work?
1st GH1 Narrative Work?
Hey guys it will be a while for the test footage.
Had a HELL of a time with post - my introduction to AVCHD over the weekend / the software I was using was to do my conversions was sooo buggy. As a result, behind on my sequence of tests I'm putting this thing through and have had to move on from the shootout to field testing.
So basically, I've shot and am editing the following, which is more fun than a test....
This is 108024 AVCHD, 720 60 AVCHD and and 720 30 MJPEG all conformed to 24p. All with the kit lens.
We made the mistake of shooting with a shutter speed of 1/50th on our 60p footage (shooting below 60 forces the camera into a hack where it drops the frame rate and maybe loses resoultion) It would look even better with a shutter of 60 for the 60p stuff I think.
Footage is lightly graded. Just hit auto levels on 3 Way Color Corrector basically. Exception would be wide shot of the kids through the fence where I used Colorista to bring up their exposure in that area of the frame only.
Not loving the web compression. Original looks better of course.
PART 1 ROUGH:
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Credits and Part 2, etc. to follow.
1st GH1 Narrative Work?
Oh No! 3 serious pixelpeepers and a dog.....I would like to know the opinion of the dog pleaserogar-Love(DBG):
Yeah JDS, I'd like to think I'm waiting patiently. (refreshes homepage....)
Hey guys it will be a while for the test footage.
Had a HELL of a time with post - my introduction to AVCHD over the weekend / the software I was using was to do my conversions was sooo buggy. As a result, behind on my sequence of tests I'm putting this thing through and have had to move on from the shootout to field testing.
So basically, I've shot and am editing the following, which is more fun than a test....
This is 108024 AVCHD, 720 60 AVCHD and and 720 30 MJPEG all conformed to 24p. All with the kit lens.
We made the mistake of shooting with a shutter speed of 1/50th on our 60p footage (shooting below 60 forces the camera into a hack where it drops the frame rate and maybe loses resoultion) It would look even better with a shutter of 60 for the 60p stuff I think.
Footage is lightly graded. Just hit auto levels on 3 Way Color Corrector basically. Exception would be wide shot of the kids through the fence where I used Colorista to bring up their exposure in that area of the frame only.
Not loving the web compression. Original looks better of course.
PART 1 ROUGH:
[moviehd]7a9fd3bb1b1ae6c6f5[/moviehd]
More daylight tests needed, but everyone comes to the same conclusion after using it. Just get to know the camera, yeah?
I'm having withdrawls without the GH-1 to be honest. I just can't believe the camera body, lens, battery, AC adapter (invaluable) ONLY costs 1500 for what you get.
Damned-near insane. I want it back. =( I hate waiting for US shipments. Now I feel the pain of everyone else.
I'm having withdrawls without the GH-1 to be honest. I just can't believe the camera body, lens, battery, AC adapter (invaluable) ONLY costs 1500 for what you get.
Damned-near insane. I want it back. =( I hate waiting for US shipments. Now I feel the pain of everyone else.
John Caballero
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That's messed up man! It looks so cool! You are the man JDS. Movement, grading, action, colorista, gun shots and a machete! This cam is gonna be awesome. Kholi, I think a support group should be started to deal with all the mad symptons of waiting and waiting and waiting. It's like waterboarding.
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Orchidthief
Active member
I agree with the support system...haha. I'm dying to get my hand on this thing. Seeing footage day to day just makes drool even more for it. Like Kholi said, it's hard to fathom the idea of what we're getting for the price of $1500.
FYI, replaced above video with better web encoding (upped the settings to 60000mbs, key frame very 24, frame controls all set to best in Compressor.)
It's interesting that your night footage had none of the vertical striping I've seen a few others complain about in low light. Perhaps the light was still too great to see this issue?
His name's Louis Gutierrez and he's Trejo's stunt double.
I go to an Austin Film Meetup group every Monday.
I stood up for three weeks saying I was looking for a "crazy stuntman" that would collaborate on a piece to showcase himself and test the GH1.
The 4th week Louis called me.
Martti Ekstrand
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It's good that you say this so clearly after going on about the 'mud' like a one-string banjo. Have a look at this comment from a thread elsewhere on this board.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1664677&postcount=52benn said:
The market video is a nice little piece, good mood and SUPERTRAMP ferchrissakes! One of the guilty pleasures from my youth :thumbup: