Panning 'mud', reasons why and firmware update

http://www.fortress.com.hk/fortress/..._id=APSNDMCGH1
http://www.yp.com.hk/photoscientific/
http://www.ygdragon.net/index.php?pa...ameraprice.htm
http://www.tvxb.com/billd/HK/HK shopping-cameras.html

a fellow dvxuser got one from here- http://www.hiphongkong.com/splurge/s...reet_hong_kong I have the phone number but never pulled the trigger.
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Cheers,
I,m hoping to get mine in the UK end of next week. If that doesn't work out I might give one of these a go. The price looks good if not grey market.

Did you pull any trigger yet?:beer:
 
Abstract Photog said:
No, there is just no pull down removal for PAL models.
they can get just as muddy as the NTSC cameras.
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So, if I have to pull down, my footage will be more likely to get muddy? Sorry guys, but Im new to camcorders. I dont know if I should choose PAL or NTSC version (I want to shoot for internet and divx only) The question is important, because the difference between the prices is quite big for me. About 300$... 39,990 TWD for japanse NTSC ver in Taiwan (~4000PLN) and 12,990 HKD or more for PAL ver in HK/Europe (~5000-5300PLN) :(
 
Boz said:
Whoa, that looks like a heck of a shootout. I can't wait. TIA for putting that together.
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Yes, thanks very much! I'm holding off ordering until I see the results of the shootout/test. Still going to take pictures of a bunch of gear I would be selling just in case. I'm hopeful.
 
I downscaled a 1080p25 clip to 1280x720p in a pp CS4 avchd-project 720p50. Both clips were taken at the same time with a medium-speed pan:



Make your own decision which is better. I get the impression that the pal-version maybe suffers less from mud than the ntsc-model - but that´s only a guess.
 
Re: muddy pans..

Re: muddy pans..

Just a thot! Has anyone tried panning tests with the b/w modes yet?
Don't know if there should be any difference - but wondering if possibly b/w mode could be less taxing on the GH-1's data transfer rate - assuming of course that b/w contains a 'less complex' data in the first place. :huh:
 
Those shots above illustrates why I want the 1080p fixed so badly. 24p FHD mode keeps so much more detail. 720p chucks a lot away.

But yeah, you did well to get away without any mud on the above pan. Lot's of fine detail, fast shutter speed, bright light.

On a more positive note...

I have some nicely shot 1080p footage to post soon, which demonstrates great low light ability & amazing dynamic range... very DLSR like...

I feel I have been chief doom monger of the mud issue for too long now and it's time to get on with using the camera... it holds up great now I'm aware of what shots to avoid.
 
I keep looking for some feedback from this test.!?

Any word?




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Photos: H. Cherdon Bedford
Gallery of Test Shoot (LINK)
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I've done some test shots specifically on the mud pan issue.
Original files here: (also posted in the gallery forum)
http://www.4shared.com/dir/16669622/d3a8031e/GH1.htm

3 similar shots - all hand held: a hold, slow pan, fast pan and whip pan.

Personally I was pleasantly surprised - even the 1080 looks ok to me if you watch it on the run. Be interested to hear what people think.

This is a pal model by the way so its 1080/25p, 720/50p and 720/30p Mjpeg
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Well done Andrew. So what´s your recommendation in case of underexposure - how many steps could be good to avoid mud in 1080p?
 
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