And reading between the lines might tell us that apparently no other new models are being released at this time.
Panasonic's new version of HPX300
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And reading between the lines might tell us that apparently no other new models are being released at this time.
Christian m
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The 2100, 2700, 3000 and 3700 are a range of completely different P2 cameras, not budget minded as the Hpx300 or 500. Yes they also carry a higher price tag, but a Hpx300 or a 500 for that matter won't stand a chance against any of them. Actually the 3000/3700 don't have any decent competition in the market at all. The 1080p alternatives from sony is either 8-bit or way beyond Panasonic in price....the SRW-9000 is about 75 grand.
To think a new hpx500 will have full raster ccd's is a bit optimistic, it will be interesting though what Panasonic makes of it. Sony's all over the full raster stuff, and with the 300 Pana seems to follow.
Joe Calabrese
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But in order to keep prices down, they are forced to go with CMOS. There's a reason the full raster CCDs are in the 3700 and 3000. An HPX500 with full raster CCDs and the ability for AVC-Intra is the HPX3000. If they even come out with an upgrade to the HPX500 it won't have full raster chips unless its CMOS to compete with the PMW350. IMHO, the 500 already beats the PMW350 because it has CCDs and a way better codec. The skew is pretty bad on the PMW350, definitely worse than the EX1/3.
For anyone not able to compare the HPX300 & 370 brochures, the photos and text are nearly identical. The new paragraph of interest includes "low-noise" for the first time:
Newly Developed U.L.T.*1 Image Sensor with F10*2 Sensitivity and Superb Image Quality
*1: Ultra Luminance Technology
*2:F10 sensitivity in 1080/59.94i and F11 sensitivity in 1080/50i at 2,000 lx.
Also:
Newly Developed U.L.T.*1 Image Sensor with F10*2 Sensitivity and Superb Image Quality
High levels of sensitivity and image quality have been achieved with a new high-sensitivity photodiode and low-noise pixel transistor, both based on low-noise analog process technology that was accumulated in Panasonic CD camera development. Plus, the same levels of sensitivity and image quality that are found in Interlace mode are now possible in Progressive mode thanks to P.A.P. (Progressive Advanced Processing), a 3D adaptive processing technology.
*1: Ultra Luminance Technology
*2:F10 sensitivity in 1080/59.94i and F11 sensitivity in 1080/50i at 2,000 lx.
Also:
* A paragraph & graphics have been added to explain Flash Band Compensation. There is no description of this as an improvement over the firmware upgrade to the 300.
* The word "skew" is nowhere to be found.
In Specs:* The word "skew" is nowhere to be found.
*Pick-up Device:
- HVX300: 2.2M Pixels MOS Image Sensor x3, (1/3 inch interline transfer type and progressive modes supported)
- HVX370: 2.2M Pixels Progressive MOS Sensor x3
- HVX300: 2.2M Pixels MOS Image Sensor x3, (1/3 inch interline transfer type and progressive modes supported)
- HVX370: 2.2M Pixels Progressive MOS Sensor x3
* Minimum luminance now rated at .4 lux rather than .8
HPX375 in Japan
HPX375 in Japan
There is one more version of the same camera
http://www.pronews.jp/news/1004051058.html
Think this is the Japanese version.
mcity
HPX375 in Japan
There is one more version of the same camera
http://www.pronews.jp/news/1004051058.html
Think this is the Japanese version.
mcity
http://translate.googleusercontent....&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjPrXfjd37rADE9s-t2-ttpPv3f3A
little googling
now i am expecting just the 370 at nab.. no other new cams
i hope im wrong 
little googling
now i am expecting just the 370 at nab.. no other new cams
i hope im wrong
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GaryNattrass
Veteran
Why would I want to buy one of these? it wont match the 301's I already have and there will no doubt be a 390 in years time.
I am afraid I cant keep buying new camera's each year so I will be sticking to my 301's and hiring in a 2700 or 3700 as no 2/3" camera to compete with the sony 350 or replace the 500.
I am afraid I cant keep buying new camera's each year so I will be sticking to my 301's and hiring in a 2700 or 3700 as no 2/3" camera to compete with the sony 350 or replace the 500.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Well, it's official indeed -- the worst-kept secret is no longer a secret. This announcement showed up in my e-mail box, which means I can now officially talk about it:
Panasonic’s AJ-HPX370 P2 HD camcorder moves you up to a whole new level of production quality. A new, state-of-the-art 2.2 megapixel 3-chip U.L.T imager* produces stunning HD content in a wide range of shooting conditions, with the sensitivity and signal-to-noise ratios of larger imagers. With a superior 10-bit, 4:2:2, full 1920 x 1080 resolution AVC-Intra codec, the HPX370 can record more image detail more accurately. Ready for global production, the HPX370 offers international HD and SD standards, including 1080p/i and 720p as well as industry-standard DVCPRO HD.
Panasonic’s AJ-HPX370 P2 HD camcorder moves you up to a whole new level of production quality. A new, state-of-the-art 2.2 megapixel 3-chip U.L.T imager* produces stunning HD content in a wide range of shooting conditions, with the sensitivity and signal-to-noise ratios of larger imagers. With a superior 10-bit, 4:2:2, full 1920 x 1080 resolution AVC-Intra codec, the HPX370 can record more image detail more accurately. Ready for global production, the HPX370 offers international HD and SD standards, including 1080p/i and 720p as well as industry-standard DVCPRO HD.
Backed by a 5-year limited warranty, the HPX370 offers an ultra reliable solid-state design. And you can easily configure the HPX370 into a studio camera.
Start your next project with all the advantages of P2 HD’s faster, file-based workflow and AVC-Intra’s precise independent-frame encoding. You deserve the HPX370. For more info, visit www.panasonic.com/broadcast. For a free demo or to purchase the powerful HPX370, e-mail us at pbtsinfo@us.panasonic.com.
Start your next project with all the advantages of P2 HD’s faster, file-based workflow and AVC-Intra’s precise independent-frame encoding. You deserve the HPX370. For more info, visit www.panasonic.com/broadcast. For a free demo or to purchase the powerful HPX370, e-mail us at pbtsinfo@us.panasonic.com.
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Barry_Green
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I can't answer as to whether an existing 301 owner would want a 370. But anyone who has been looking at a 300 would be thrilled to leap on the 370. It fixes the skew issue, its chips match or exceed the EX1/EX3's, it's more sensitive, with less noise.
Perfectly reasonable approach. If you already have a 300/301, there's no compelling reason to sell it at a loss and spend more to get a 370, unless you really, really, really need the 1080/24p with much less skew or you really need the sensitivity improvement.
Barry, have you tested it to verify that skew is significantly less at 1080/24p? Or could you point to a test?
P.S. BHphotovideo doesn't list it for sale yet.
Carlos Corral
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Any word if they will be bundling this one with a better lens? Less CA would be nice but yes I have to agree with some of you here. It just doesn't seem like the right time for this upgrade.
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if you haven't already heard, or read the rumors, today Panasonic announced their latest camera - the HPX370. The camera is very similar to the HPX300, with AVC-Intra 100 recording, but now with an improved sensor. I got to play with it awhile back and do some testing. See my video here -
At the Bench with Panasonic HPX370 | CineTechnica
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if you haven't already heard, or read the rumors, today Panasonic announced their latest camera - the HPX370. The camera is very similar to the HPX300, with AVC-Intra 100 recording, but now with an improved sensor. I got to play with it awhile back and do some testing. See my video here -
At the Bench with Panasonic HPX370 | CineTechnica
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Barry_Green
Moderator
Yes I have. It is way better. I have an article coming, but basically it is on par with the EX3 in all modes now.
The HPX300 had 1080/24p skew that was easily twice as much as the EX1, but the newer camera has much improved skew characteristics.
Quick summary: the HPX370 is an HPX300 with all the major complaints fixed. Much much less skew in 1080/24p, even better sensitivity than an EX1/EX3, even lower noise than an EX1/EX3, it's PAL/NTSC switchable, and it includes a couple new features that make it more useful for the news market: ability to extract portions of clips in-camera to create a new subclip, and the ability to record multiple recordings as all one continuous clip.
Barry_Green
Moderator
The lens is a CAC lens, it shows a lot less CA than the EX3 that I just tested it with side-by-side.
As for not the right time -- why not? It's been over a year since the HPX300 was released, and it makes the camera better than it was, and better than its competition. Why shouldn't they launch it?
Thanks Barry, it seems to have addressed the issues that kept me from purchasing. (though I still highly recommend the 300 for live type 720p work, like at my church).
CinemaElectronika
Well-known member
Barry,
Just to clear this up... "better sensitivity than an EX1/EX3"...
Does this mean the HPX370 might have better dynamic range due to the F10 (2000 lx, 3200K, 89.9% reflect, 1080/59.94i)?
Almost as the HPX500?
If it does, that should be THE major upgrade!
With our HPX300 we do really have big problems on flesh tones due to the limited dynamic range and others due to the rolling shutter effects, filming in AVC-Intra @ 1080/24p...
Please make my day!
Cheers.
Henry Epstein
Barry_Green
Moderator
Unfortunately dynamic range is the one thing I couldn't test satisfactorily. I couldn't get ahold of a light meter to use to set up a proper DR comparison. So I make no claims on DR, whether it's the same, better, or worse than the 300 or EX1/EX3. I couldn't test it satisfactorily.
The EX1 had a dynamic range advantage over the HPX300. The 370 has improved on the 300 and matches or beats the EX3 in every sensor test I threw at it, but dynamic range is an unknown quantity. I wish I could have put them both up on the stouffer chart side by side, but I was lucky enough to find a chroma du monde chart, and that's not all that useful for testing dr.
The EX1 had a dynamic range advantage over the HPX300. The 370 has improved on the 300 and matches or beats the EX3 in every sensor test I threw at it, but dynamic range is an unknown quantity. I wish I could have put them both up on the stouffer chart side by side, but I was lucky enough to find a chroma du monde chart, and that's not all that useful for testing dr.