Panasonic S1H Announcement Tuesday, August 27th
- Thread starter TheDingo
- Start date
G
Guest
Guest
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
Good specs but still it is a DSLR... the perfect shape for taking stills photos.
I cant really see a way to use it - it is a awful as all the other 'DSLR' cameras.
'EVF' in wrong place
Cant easily get multiple signals to 1ac and director
Impossible to make a nice rig
No ND
etc etc.
I cant really see a way to use it - it is a awful as all the other 'DSLR' cameras.
'EVF' in wrong place
Cant easily get multiple signals to 1ac and director
Impossible to make a nice rig
No ND
etc etc.
G
Guest
Guest
I have no problem with the pro SLR form for video, but they are still making hybrid cameras. The S1H is still trying to be a camera that can do both.
The slr form is good for both video and stills, but not at the same time.
Last edited:
Cristian Mihai
Well-known member
I really hope someone will do an adapter for the Fujinon MK zooms. Flange distance is 20mm. e mount is 18, Fuji is 17 so enough room to play.....
Samuel H
Major Contributor
^ You got it backwards: if your lens is designed for a 20mm focal flange mount and the mechanics fit, you can use it on a camera that has a 18mm focal flange mount, by using an adapter that is 2mm thick.
What you want is for Fuji to make their MK zooms in L mount. Or for someone to modify the lenses, changing them to an L-mount housing.
What you want is for Fuji to make their MK zooms in L mount. Or for someone to modify the lenses, changing them to an L-mount housing.
G
Guest
Guest
The Fuji X is 17.7mm i believe.
"Has Panasonic said RAW will be limited to 4K? Atomos said earlier this year that they were testing higher than 4K RAW capture resolutions with the Z6 and Z7, so I wouldn't assume the S1H limited to 4K RAW until Panasonic confirms the limitation."
That would be great but consider the following:
5.7K RAW out of the EVA1 is via the 6G-SDI BNC connector not the HDMI port. Only the Inferno is able to handle the 5.7K
Inferno Specs:
https://www.atomos.com/shogun-inferno
Check the specs on BH site:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...au_eva1pj8_au_eva1_5_7k_super_35mm.html/specs
Atomos directly:
"Atomos is excited to announce co-development with Panasonic of RAW over HDMI from the brand new Lumix S1H to the Atomos Ninja V 4K HDR monitor-recorder"
PDF here:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/atomos-web-uploads/press/Press-Release-Atomos-Panasonic_S1H.pdf
I have the S1H on preorder and would love for the 6K to be in RAW but from the preceding I may get
to keep my P6K.
That would be great but consider the following:
5.7K RAW out of the EVA1 is via the 6G-SDI BNC connector not the HDMI port. Only the Inferno is able to handle the 5.7K
Inferno Specs:
https://www.atomos.com/shogun-inferno
Check the specs on BH site:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...au_eva1pj8_au_eva1_5_7k_super_35mm.html/specs
Atomos directly:
"Atomos is excited to announce co-development with Panasonic of RAW over HDMI from the brand new Lumix S1H to the Atomos Ninja V 4K HDR monitor-recorder"
PDF here:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/atomos-web-uploads/press/Press-Release-Atomos-Panasonic_S1H.pdf
I have the S1H on preorder and would love for the 6K to be in RAW but from the preceding I may get
to keep my P6K.
Last edited:
My favorite of the Panasonic videos from yesterday :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3e4CM84WU
Follow the link to the video itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3e4CM84WU
Follow the link to the video itself.
combatentropy
Veteran
I agree that a shouldercam has a lot to recommend it, and it may even be best for a wide swath of professional shooters, like Hollywood and corporate.
But ever since I read of a guy walking backwards onto a street and being killed by a car, the way such a camera blinds your peripheral vision freaks me out!
Also the way it attracts attention is appropriate for some shoots while making others impossible.
---
But for a while I didn't want a DSLR either. Too small! A tiny short-lived battery. Hardly any place to mount stuff like a wireless microphone receiver. By the time you frankenrig it, it's worse overall than just getting a shouldercam. Which is why I gravitated toward the middle ground, the handicam body style, like the Sony FS5 --- maybe a little smaller. Not sure if it really is comfortable to handhold after a while, though (thoughts?).
But simply mounting a battery on the back of a DSLR, like I screenshotted from the video mentioned here:
--- solves I guess all my problems? Battery life: check. Place to put a wireless receiver: just slap it on top of the battery, I guess. Something to brace against my stomach for a modicum of stabilty: check.
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
Im not a fan of full shoulder cams - too big and heavy but your DSLR rig looks non functional to me
In the sun..
You cant put your eye to the internal VF (batts in the way) or see the flip out monitor.. you are basically dead!
If you put a box over the flip out to make a poormans 4in monitor -it would be too flimsy to use
If you need an external monitor for a director.. or even a wireless video transmitter you wont be able to angle the screen like that cos it will clash with the HDMI
and of course you would be in even more of a mess if you had to add some more crap like audio
This form factor basically leads to needing to keep the flip screen closed and not being able to use the 'evf'.. which then drives you to an external monitor and/or offboard monitor.
At that point you have bought two viewing systems (with the camera) that are unusable.
I kind of think maybe the FS100 had it right in the small camera form?
With the FS one had a little monitor and if you wanted to 'build' you could just close it and carry on with your box camera which you would then build out.
G
Guest
Guest
Sam, this was an early docu rig i used way back when. I put a diopter on the LCD, and shot in the bright sun.
I want to go shoulder, but this setup made it easier for shooting in crowds and jumping into cars and shooting inside of cars.
The battery lasted two days, between charging.
I want to go shoulder, but this setup made it easier for shooting in crowds and jumping into cars and shooting inside of cars.
The battery lasted two days, between charging.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I try to never shoot walking backwards unless I have a spotter who keeps their hand on my back or shoulder and tells me if a curb, street, light pole, etc. is coming up or in my path.
The nice thing about the gimbal is I can reverse it to get that shot walking in front of talent shot while walking forward, just like a Steadicam would.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I find fewer and fewer reasons to shoot shoulder mounted these days. When I was doing a ton of EPK and BTS shooting all over the place, that was my default (C100/300 days), running around sets all day in crazy places, but kind of switched off to either gimbal with the little camera or shooting my C200 cradled, which can be surprisingly effective when you are shooting documentary style in public places or on boats or in cars. I shot two days on a Hallmark movie this year, all shoulder mounted and it reminded me of how terrible my C200 is on a shoulder rig even though I have all of the right toys and accessories for making it work as well as it can, Zacuto VCT Pro Baseplate, Tilta handgrip extension, Zacuto EVF Pro, rods, V-mounts, etc. The C series cameras just suck as shoulder cameras, no two ways about it.
I shot the BMD UMP G2 this past weekend shoulder mounted and it wasn't great either, although a bit more suited than the C200. Their baseplate has no quick or easy fore/aft adjustment, making balance a challenge and I had one large brick and two small ones and switched lenses a few times. They tried to make it a more Betacam-like form factor and it's a heavy beast too. I guess if you only shot handheld with the same lens and the same size weight V-Mounts, you could get it balanced out? It had the BMD handgrip and extension arm, worked okay, but they have three buttons under your thumb and I kept pushing the wrong one instead of record start/stop. Nothing beats the 2/3" shoulder mount form factor. All of these other hacks are big compromises in comparison.
RAW is coming and will be free on the S1H (unlike Nikon if it ever happens...)
https://www.atomos.com/press-releases/atomos-panasonic-lumix
https://www.atomos.com/press-releases/atomos-panasonic-lumix
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I see ads and videos for this thing every day, I don't get the appeal? I tried shooting with a monopod in Africa, shooting 12-14 hour days on sets in the hope of reducing fatigue by not having a camera on my shoulder all day and while it wasn't this version with an gas lift spring and foot pedal, which would make a bit quickler to deploy I suppose, I hated shooting with a monopod. With longer focal lengths I still got too much unwanted movement, I was always fighting horizons and whether a shot was level and on set, it was too easy to get in the way of production when using one. I tried shooting monopod again on a shoot at a hotel in LA that was hosting a distilled spirits tasting. Shot with an Canon 85mm 1.8 prime and a DSLR and even with the monopod, was still getting micro jitters all over the place.
Doesn't work for me, although I know some who have them and love them but they are nuisance for how I shoot. I should sell mine because it's collecting dust.
Cary Knoop
Veteran
Right!
A monopod does help zero in getting a more stable shot, all it does is take some of the weight off the camera operator.
combatentropy
Veteran
I used to use a monopod. It wasn't bad, especially if get a trigger-release to quickly raise and lower it, and if you mount a ball head for those times where you want to go just a little lower by tilting the monopod diagonally but keep the camera level, and if you made sure that it accepted the same quick-release plate as your tripod head, so you could quickly go back and forth. Also you want to be able to quickly take it off the monopod every time you want to set down the monopod. And don't trip over the monopod once you have laid it on the floor.
Actually, come to think of it, it was still a pain.
If your camera is just a few pounds, and you push it against your chest firmly enough, then you are the monopod (technically a bipod).
Actually, come to think of it, it was still a pain.
If your camera is just a few pounds, and you push it against your chest firmly enough, then you are the monopod (technically a bipod).
Steadicam Steadimate-S Aero 15 Arm & Aero Vest Kit
I'm curious to see a review of this item from Steadicam. Will it make much of a difference ?