Nektonic
Veteran
Clips are looking good so far. Even the Motion JPEG stuff looks darn good, and quite a bit better than the D90's M-JPEG in my opinion. The aliasing mystery is the only thing hanging over the GH1, and it seems like it is not too bad if there is a little bit of it from time to time. Certainly much better than having to deal with a D90.
I'm not as worried about the AF, but if the bokeh looks weird that would turn me off. How different will the bokeh look? As long as it is not a diamond shaped bokeh like the HV20 has. This customer sample shot from Amazon has a nice circular bokeh. I guess they probably used the new one, although it doesn't specify which version.
If there is no major difference in the bokeh and the price is substantially cheaper I don't mind. From looking on B&H and Amazon, it seems like it is only about a hundred dollars more, so yeah, probably worth it for the newer one.
It really is starting to feel like the GH1 is an HMC150 crammed into the body of a digital stills camera.
Barry, the footage you said you saw at NAB, was that the promo of the Japanese women on the beach with GH1's? It plays on the flat screen monitor in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjH2MCxXwc
I'm wondering if that promo video was shot with GH1's, or if they used a higher end cam.
Has this guy seen Crank 2 yet? Sure it may not be as good as 35mm or a Red One, but it looked great on the big screen. I agree that the GH1 is not the end all be all, and that we'll have better stuff that evolves from this tech, but for some of us who will be going straight to DVD, Blu-ray, and the web the GH1 will probably be good enough.
I can't afford a Red One right now. Even if I could, I think it would be overkill for 99% of what I'll be shooting over the next year, maybe two. Not all of us need the most expensive decked out camera to make a good piece of cinema or television or whatever. Sure Red changed the game for a higher end segment of the market, but at the lower end (HV20 - HVX200) range of the market, the GH1 is a big deal.
I think you're right. Eventually when someone (probably Panasonic if I had to bet, although Canon is rumored to be working on one for 2010) releases a dedicated 4/3rds or APS-C prosumer HD video camera, I think we'll start to be at a point where this tech has reached a crossroads where it can start to overtake and eventually replace the whole 3 1/3 Chip mentality that is still dominant in this segment of the market. Although, the HDMI out options haven't been confirmed yet on the GH1, so who knows if this cam has even more potential for better image quality?
I think this is the old version of this lens. You'd probably be better off getting the new version, which supports contrast focusing making it's AF compatible with micro 4/3. It also has rounded aperture blades.
I'm not as worried about the AF, but if the bokeh looks weird that would turn me off. How different will the bokeh look? As long as it is not a diamond shaped bokeh like the HV20 has. This customer sample shot from Amazon has a nice circular bokeh. I guess they probably used the new one, although it doesn't specify which version.
If there is no major difference in the bokeh and the price is substantially cheaper I don't mind. From looking on B&H and Amazon, it seems like it is only about a hundred dollars more, so yeah, probably worth it for the newer one.
Wait until you see the 720p. It'll knock your socks off. You won't believe that 720p can look that good, but it does.
Has anyone yet considered that unlike the D90 or 5D, this little cam will do slow-mo overcranking? 720/60p, drop it in your 24p timeline... heh heh...
It really is starting to feel like the GH1 is an HMC150 crammed into the body of a digital stills camera.
Barry, the footage you said you saw at NAB, was that the promo of the Japanese women on the beach with GH1's? It plays on the flat screen monitor in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjH2MCxXwc
I'm wondering if that promo video was shot with GH1's, or if they used a higher end cam.
Well, you've definitely got your nay-sayers. A guy over on ProLost had this to say ...
"These little Rebel cams are not GAME changers... They are more like first and ten at the 45 yard line.... a good start. For one, you are shooting some Decent fps (24) and decent DOF ... finally... with a major tradeoff in 8bit compressed original footage ... so your stuff better look good to start with ... RED has actually changed this game ... as I suspect none of these other players would have dipped into this game if not for them taking all the risks. But more and more I wonder how fast everyone will get bored of trees and leaves footage or people "looking for something" films."
Has this guy seen Crank 2 yet? Sure it may not be as good as 35mm or a Red One, but it looked great on the big screen. I agree that the GH1 is not the end all be all, and that we'll have better stuff that evolves from this tech, but for some of us who will be going straight to DVD, Blu-ray, and the web the GH1 will probably be good enough.
I can't afford a Red One right now. Even if I could, I think it would be overkill for 99% of what I'll be shooting over the next year, maybe two. Not all of us need the most expensive decked out camera to make a good piece of cinema or television or whatever. Sure Red changed the game for a higher end segment of the market, but at the lower end (HV20 - HVX200) range of the market, the GH1 is a big deal.
No doubt. It will be interesting to see how the various still image controls impact video esp codec encoding etc. I suspect there may be much better settings for video than anything posted yet especially since this is from the consumer division. Dialing down sharpness, finding good gamma curves etc. may much improve the image yet.
I think you're right. Eventually when someone (probably Panasonic if I had to bet, although Canon is rumored to be working on one for 2010) releases a dedicated 4/3rds or APS-C prosumer HD video camera, I think we'll start to be at a point where this tech has reached a crossroads where it can start to overtake and eventually replace the whole 3 1/3 Chip mentality that is still dominant in this segment of the market. Although, the HDMI out options haven't been confirmed yet on the GH1, so who knows if this cam has even more potential for better image quality?
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