GH4 Panasonic GH5 coming in 2017

DLD said:
43Rumors reposts Vitaliy K. "behind the IBC'16 scenes" gossip that GH5 and EM-1 MKII will share a more than a few components but that MKII will only have the external 10-bit recording. Which means that GH5 will have some pricing power over it. Which could mean that the $2,000 price talk isn't farfetched.

Personally, I still see it as ~ $1,600 for EM-1 MKII and ~ $1,800 for GH5 but I may indeed be too low.
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Personally, if it uses the same batteries, I wouldn't find $2,000 USD to be unreasonable for a 10bit, 4:2:2 full featured HDSLR. With a Speedbooster and good glass, that's a heckuva lot of bang for your buck. Heck, even good m4/3 glass is pretty cheap for what you often get.
 
John Godden said:
Vitaliy also wrote in a followup comment:

"Actual expected time for first batch shipping is from March 2017 to more real August 2017."
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Probably a rumor created by Sony's people. (a rim shot)

In any case, with Sony ramping up the sensor production and Panasonic's expertise with a whole slew of photo and video products, I don't see why the wait should be into Q3. GH5 has been "announced" already. The expectation is high. They really should be pushing the launch as quickly as possible.

PS. And I'll repeat again, XT-2 is getting rave reviews all across the webs. If I were a Panasonic manager, I'd consider every XT2 unit sold as a GH5 customer lost.
 
Jim Simon said:
I looked at the XT-2, out of curiosity.

It's off the table for me, not accommodating the growing collection of MFT lenses I own. I suspect many people feel the same.
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Not to even mention that it appears to be a much lower spec color space for internal recording.
 
Jim Simon said:
I looked at the XT-2, out of curiosity.

It's off the table for me, not accommodating the growing collection of MFT lenses I own. I suspect many people feel the same.
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People with M43 glass sure. But I know many Canon, Sony and Nikon shooters who were happy to move over.

Including me.
 
Just saw a FB Live from a famous french blogger who said that the GH5 will indeed have sensor stabilization...

He even spoke about an "hybrid" stabilization system with both sensor AND optical stabilization (probably with Panasonic own lenses) working together and driven by "powerful algorithms".
 
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S.Blanchardon said:
He even spoke about an "hybrid" stabilization system with both sensor AND optical stabilization (probably with Panasonic own lenses) working together and driven by "powerful algorithms".
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Dual OS is present in two Panasonic cameras already. Works very well on the GX80/85
 
Jim Simon said:
I looked at the XT-2, out of curiosity.

It's off the table for me, not accommodating the growing collection of MFT lenses I own. I suspect many people feel the same.
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Of course. But - with prices for both gear and lenses falling and some major companies crippling their product quite heavily, it makes sense for a lot of shooters not to be a slave to one particular system. Additionally, with the used market quite healthy, switching ecosystems is easier than ever. Samsung couldn't convince too many folks to jump ship because there was a shortage of glass using their mount. Fuji has plenty of native glass.

In terms of purely business perspectives, I recall the Panasonic management being surprised with the tremendous success of GH4 and subsequently opening a second assembly line, doubling its production to ten thousand units monthly. And that was when there was no comparable competitor in the same price range. Now, with Olympus, Fuji, Sony already battling it out, GH5 sales will probably sink to the previous levels anyway. MFT, being an open source mount, has some benefits but, if someone leaves it, chances are they won't be coming back soon.

John Godden said:
Not to even mention that it appears to be a much lower spec color space for internal recording.
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But, as has been mentioned before, not everyone is going to grade their footage and Fuji has some several interesting baked-in options.

NorBro said:
$1,799 --> take it for what it's worth...

http://www.43rumors.com/42photo-lists-the-gh5-for-1799-and-the-e-m1ii-for-1499/
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This price - or any price, for that matter - doesn't jive with the "ship in August, 2017" meme. And so one has to place odds on a behind the scenes rumor vs. the "42nd St" store of dubious reputation. One may as well drop some tea leaves into a pot of coffee ...

NorBro said:
That number seemed to ring a bell for me, and interestingly enough Andrew threw that figure out back in February...

http://www.eoshd.com/2016/02/time-to-step-up-panasonic-gh5-must-go-super-35mm-to-compete-in-2016/
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He also had some other "suggestions" in that article. Which makes me think that the biggest discussion in Panasonic offices is deciding on the feature bundle and the price that a camera with these features will cost. They, obviously, have the technology. They just want to make sure they maximize their income stream by hitting the sweet spot in this niche.
 
mcgeedigital said:
I know many Canon, Sony and Nikon shooters who were happy to move over.
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Considering the XT-2 is an APS-C sensor, that's not surprising.

The general trend seems to be that folks using the larger sensor tend to stick with such, which would take the GH5 off the table for many of them.
 
stoneinapond said:
Dual OS is present in two Panasonic cameras already. Works very well on the GX80/85
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Thanks, I don't know very well Panasonic cameras so it may very well be the same system on the GH5.

Anyway, makes me more and more interested in this little upcoming camera ! Ah! but release date, again according to what I heard, is first quarter 2017 and could even end early 2nd quarter... (so late March, early April)
 
stoneinapond said:
Dual IS is present in two Panasonic cameras already. Works very well on the GX80/85
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Not always, and that's why it should remain a consumer feature.

OIS is the best option for more professional use. Adding the inferior option (IBIS) to the GH5 would only hinder getting OIS implemented into more lenses, which is what is really needed and wanted here.

Imaging the upcoming line of Sigma Cinema lenses, including the venerable 18-35, with OIS as good as the Lumix 14-140. Damn, what a nice lens that would be.
 
Jim Simon said:
OIS is the best option for more professional use. Adding the inferior option (IBIS) to the GH5 would only hinder getting OIS implemented into more lenses, which is what is really needed and wanted here.

Imaging the upcoming line of Sigma Cinema lenses, including the venerable 18-35, with OIS as good as the Lumix 14-140. Damn, what a nice lens that would be.
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How can you make such a statement? It's meaningless. Dual IS is fantastic. Period. Bring it on Panasonic. No need to wait for fantasy lenses. How come Olympus and Sony include it in their top of the line cameras? Guess they're not "professional." :shocked:
 
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