Panasonic FZ2500 DCI 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 200Mbps log Leica lens all in one

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philiplipetz

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From leaked press release, a XC10/15 killer?

A bit larger and a bit longer, Panasonic is introducing a second advanced compact camera, the FZ2500. This camera utilizes the same 20.1MP 1" MOS sensor as the LX10, but optimizes video performance with the inclusion of DCI 4K video recording and a true 24 fps frame rate, in addition to more conventional UHD 4K and Full HD recording modes. Also benefitting videographers, this camera includes Panasonic's CINELIKE D and CINELIKE V picture profiles for better grading capabilities, and V-Log L can be added via an optional upgrade. Additionally, high bit rate recording up to 200 Mbps is supported in both MP4 and MOV formats; video can be output over HDMI with a 4:2:2 10-bit signal; there is no recording duration limit; and a built-in ND filter can be used for enhanced control over exposure settings while recording.
More than just a video-optimized camera, however, the FZ2500 also sports a slew of specs for stills and movie users, such as a 50 fps continuous shooting rate with an electronic shutter, or 12 fps with a mechanical shutter, and an expanded sensitivity range of up to ISO 25600 for working in dim light. The built-in 20x Leica DC Vario-Elmarit f/2.8-4.5 lens covers a 24-480mm equivalent focal-length range, and 5-axis HYBRID O.I.S.+ controls the effects of camera shake for sharper handheld shooting. A free-angle 3.0" 1.04m-dot LCD touchscreen permits intuitive control and viewing ease from a variety of working positions, and a 2.36m-dot electronic viewfinder is also available. Additionally, built-in Wi-Fi also supports wireless image sharing and remote camera control.
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It's an FZ branded bridge, so it'll probably look like an FZ branded bridge (such as FZ1000) but with better specs. FZ1000 retails for $800, so this projects to around a grand or so, more of an RX10 MKII competitor.

Digicame in Japan revealed some early specs on LX10 (LX100 successor, presumably), so maybe B&H jumped the gun by a few days, with the official announcement slated for the 19th.

Of course, it's better than Canon, which is getting perilously close to jumping the shark.
 
From a user on dpreview:
7 Assignable function buttons
Built in ND filter with 3 levels of intensity
Scroll wheel on top
3 function buttons are on lens barrel
Separate manual focus ring around lens?
Or is it an Assignable ring (even better)
I think it now has headphone jack and better Video features
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Shenan said:
True, and also 2.8-4.5 lens. But still, not bad. The whole package may be worth it, especially compared to other 1" cameras.
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Ugh I hate that they convert the focal length but not the f-stop. But basically it must be approximately a 8-175mm f2.8-4.5 which is a 24-450mm f7-11 FF35 equivalent.
 
nyvz said:
Ugh I hate that they convert the focal length but not the f-stop. But basically it must be approximately a 8-175mm f2.8-4.5 which is a 24-450mm f7-11 FF35 equivalent.
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Ugh, I, like, totally hate that shallow-DOF fetishists insist on "converting" the aperture because all they care about is FF DOF equivalency.

It's an affordable 1"-sensor camera, everyone knows that it's not going to take you down Bokeh Boulevard, and anyone expecting such is a loon.

Aperture relates how fast the lens is: the ratio of its iris opening diameter to its focal length.... i.e. how bright the lens is capable of going. The exposure at f2.8 on this camera will be the same as f2.8 on a FF camera.
 
norbro's link offers pictures.

first image side shot seems to have a headphone icon port!

be well.

rob
smalltalk.productions
 
Interesting to see how much it has in common with the HC-X1 camcorder. Looks like it is only 30P in UHD though.
 
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This looks like a great little camera meant to go head to head with the Sony RX10 cameras. I prefer Panasonic for video but I have to say, the Sony with its 240fps ~1080p burst and bright lens has been a nice camera. I will have to see if the FZ2500 has the high framerates to get me to consider a switch. The ND filter on the FZ2500 is a nice addition. The LX10 looks to be a nice replacement for my LX7 with the hopes they included unlimited 1080p60 recording time.
 
^ probably 30 minute limit on other cameras since Panasonic made a big point of calling the fz2500 a video oriented camera, and never used that term for the other cameras
 
aldolega said:
Ugh, I, like, totally hate that shallow-DOF fetishists insist on "converting" the aperture because all they care about is FF DOF equivalency.

It's an affordable 1"-sensor camera, everyone knows that it's not going to take you down Bokeh Boulevard, and anyone expecting such is a loon.

Aperture relates how fast the lens is: the ratio of its iris opening diameter to its focal length.... i.e. how bright the lens is capable of going. The exposure at f2.8 on this camera will be the same as f2.8 on a FF camera.
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Not just DOF, also light gathering. The amount of light comprising the image circle is far less in a lens designed for a smaller sensor format. This means the sensor has to be many times more efficient (sensitive) to achieve the same "exposure" to produce a similar image to a larger format sensor. In many ways it depends on how you define exposure, whether it's a reading of an arbitrary part of the image circle no matter its size or an accounting of all of the photons gathered onto the sensor. I prefer to be concerned with the later since it is actually correlated with image performance where the former completely discounts sensor size and tells you very little about your image.
 
BTW is it just me or does this camera seem nearly identical to the Sony RX10 series? Still form factor with ND filter and 2.8-4.5 lens? Basically the same but Sony's lens is a little longer and has super slo mo? The Panasonic's 200Mbps 4k sounds like a worthy upgrade though since sony's 100Mbps 4k leaves a bit to be desired.
 
philiplipetz said:
^ probably 30 minute limit on other cameras since Panasonic made a big point of calling the fz2500 a video oriented camera, and never used that term for the other cameras
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They seem to flip flop on this topic. The latest GX85 has a US and a Euro version with the US version having unlimited video. I would think limiting recording time loses some sales in the US as it kept me from buying the LX100. Just 1080p would be fine as I know 4k could be a hardware/heat issue. We will see in a few days.
 
nyvz said:
BTW is it just me or does this camera seem nearly identical to the Sony RX10 series? Still form factor with ND filter and 2.8-4.5 lens? Basically the same but Sony's lens is a little longer and has super slo mo? The Panasonic's 200Mbps 4k sounds like a worthy upgrade though since sony's 100Mbps 4k leaves a bit to be desired.
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i agree that this seems like it is aimed at the sony rx10.

i applaud panasonic for pushing some new cameras forward into the marketplace.

for awhile it had seemed like pannie was a bit player way behind sony and canon but also behind the good folks at black magic.

i have not shot with any 1" chip camera but i am intrigued.

ymmv

be well.

rob
smalltalk.productions
 
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