Overall impression

Well... I've teamed up to work on several scripts with Larry_R, and sadly, we haven't had the chance to produce any of them, but I can say, they're very strong scripts.
 
this post wont be here long cuz i don't want to offend those wonderful people who helped me... but is is very very difficult to get actors where I am at I Have posted in colleges craigslist.. freaking everywhere.. so you work with what you have.. some of the acting obviously would be enhanced by better writing but still... I took what I had and did the best I could with it... also i never respond to critics of acting.. its what i have and if its all i can get then, I will make more movies with them... cuz i love doing it... also I dont make serious movies anyway soo run and gun and have fun..
 
I'm curious as to the defensiveness of some people in this thread. I don't think I ever intimated that the writing a script was harder than making a movie. Just a different skill set. I may have said that a couple of times. I'll review and see if I remember that differently. But just because you can do something as difficult as make a film doesn't mean that you can do anything that happens to be easier than that. That would mean that because you can make a film you can make the perfect omelette, beat anyone at Jenga and knit the perfect scarf? I dunno.

I stand by my observation of most of the movies in this festival suffering from weak writing. I understand tha writers are hard to find. As are good filmmakers, but I'm sort of surprised at the attitude that ANYONE can write a script so what's the point in looking to good screen writers. It seems to me to be rather short sighted.
 
Hootzie said:
but I'm sort of surprised at the attitude that ANYONE can write a script so what's the point in looking to good screen writers. It seems to me to be rather short sighted.
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I never sensed that sentiment here :) I know for a fact I am very limited in my writing skills. I can come up with plots, characters, and interesting story ideas, and I'm a very visual writer, but I realize where my writing is weak is in the dialogue, so, I team up with other people, a few examples are Larry_R, and also my film partner Daniel Noa, who is a brilliant writer as well. I am currently working on two feature scripts with Daniel, and one with Larry_R.
 
Hootzie said:
I'm curious as to the defensiveness of some people in this thread. I don't think I ever intimated that the writing a script was harder than making a movie. Just a different skill set. I may have said that a couple of times. I'll review and see if I remember that differently. But just because you can do something as difficult as make a film doesn't mean that you can do anything that happens to be easier than that. That would mean that because you can make a film you can make the perfect omelette, beat anyone at Jenga and knit the perfect scarf? I dunno.

I stand by my observation of most of the movies in this festival suffering from weak writing. I understand tha writers are hard to find. As are good filmmakers, but I'm sort of surprised at the attitude that ANYONE can write a script so what's the point in looking to good screen writers. It seems to me to be rather short sighted.
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It is difficult to find good writers but they can definitely be found. I absolutely agree that writers are needed or at least better stories. Dialogue only works if it is written well. It is a totally different skill set then thinking of a story concept. I would love to understand how to write character interaction and depth better than I do and, since I know that is not my strong suit, it would be wise for me to seek out a writer who already has that area mastered. I think it is simply easier for the moviemakers to not use a seperate writer, or share creative control, or concepts, etc, but I believe once we see the value come through in our movies, many of us will move in that direction.


Calling all rockin writers! We need you...pepare for the next fest!
 
Brandon Rice said:
I never sensed that sentiment here :) I know for a fact I am very limited in my writing skills. I can come up with plots, characters, and interesting story ideas, and I'm a very visual writer, but I realize where my writing is weak is in the dialogue, so, I team up with other people, a few examples are Larry_R, and also my film partner Daniel Noa, who is a brilliant writer as well. I am currently working on two feature scripts with Daniel, and one with Larry_R.
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That's what I mean. I don't think writers are the only ones who can come up with an idea, but it is advantageous to seek out people who can help with the bits and pieces of writing when you can, it would seem to me.
 
Hootzie said:
That's what I mean. I don't think writers are the only ones who can come up with an idea, but it is advantageous to seek out people who can help with the bits and pieces of writing when you can, it would seem to me.
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Absolutely! And precisely the reason I've done so... I encourage you all here on DVXuser to find those people who compliment you, and have strengths where you're weak!
 
Good call Matt... and I've seen a lot of people start to team up with others, and if you click, that's invaluable!
 
Writng a good script is not easy. I would hesitate to judge the scripts by the film though. It very well be that many of the scripts were better than the end product. There are a lot of folks here that are learning the art of filmmaking and all its complexities (acting lighting etc.). That can hurt the final product.

If you want to be helpful, I would suggest PM ing the filmaker with your specific criticism of thir script. My feeling is that most people would appreciate the feedback. Make a specific argument rather than a generalization.
 
I have done so with a couple of filmmakers. I simply posted the original idea here in the Overall Impression thread someone started because I thought it was food for thought.
 
Hootzie said:
I have done so with a couple of filmmakers. I simply posted the original idea here in the Overall Impression thread someone started because I thought it was food for thought.
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that is good. I think people are afraid to be critical because they don't want to hurt peoples feelings. Good for you for doing that. I think criticism, put the right way, is one of the ore important parts of the exercise.
 
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