Old HV20 comes back to life as a working prop!

CharlesPapert

Director of Photography
On the current TVLand series I'm shooting, "Teachers", we had a storyline where one of the characters is shooting a reality show audition video. The footage from the camcorder was to be cut into the show so it needed to be a working HD camera. Normally we would shoot those clips separately from the main action with one of my operators manning the camera, but in this instance the director wanted the actual actors (including at one point an 8 year old) to hold the camera. I knew that we would need to live monitor the footage to make sure the framing was OK and didn't swing around to catch our cameras/lights/ boom etc. However, we couldn't hardwire the camera because the cable would be seen in the primary footage and wouldn't make sense. Finally, the camera needed to be light and easy enough to operate that the actors would be comfortable, and for the sake of the storyline it needed to be a few years old rather than state of the art.

I still have my 8 or 9 year old Canon HV20 around which I've kept around to transfer my small pile of HDV tapes to hard drive. I haven't touched it in years, but was glad to see that it worked perfectly well. I had to order an inexpensive replacement battery as a backup but the original issue still held a charge, not bad for Li-On!

The HV20 was one of the first camcorders to sport an HDMI port, and rather amusingly at this point in time, a full size one at that. That made it a perfect to use a Paralinx Arrow to transmit the video, but I had to contend with powering the transmitter and making the whole thing self-contained, and it all had to look believable on camera. I came up with the idea of disguising the Arrow as an onboard mike by adding a foam windscreen on the front, mounted onto a hot shoe bracket. For power, I velcroed a Mophie Juice pack to the bottom of the camera. Fortunately the color scheme of the camera being silver and black, all of these components tied in visually!

The HDMI and USB cables were electrical-taped together into a short arc at the back and kept as low-profile as possible. As can be seen from the picture below, it's not perfect but I think unnoticeable in the show. The Arrow worked perfectly (we kept the receiver as close as possible) and thus we were able to monitor the HV20 along with our two Alexas at all times.

It was a full success! The actors had no trouble working the camera. The 8 year old was particularly adept; we rehearsed her once, I gave her some framing notes, and she killed it take after take (while acting in the scene on top of everything!). It occurs to me that today's kids have grown up shooing stills and video so their inherent sense of operating a camera and framing is a great improvement over previous generations.

We had a little trouble transcoding the footage--it seemed illogical to capture via old-school firewire as an HDV signal and transcode in this day and age, so we played it out of the camera via HDMI into a Blackmagic Intensity Extreme and captured through Media Express as ProRes422HQ, same as our Alexas. A few dropped frames here and there necessitated additional transfers of select footage down the road. We shot in the camera's "24p" mode which is really just flagged frames in a 59.94 file, but it was easy enough to reverse telecine to a 23.98 file which post took care of for us.

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Keep the faith!


I've dragged my HV30 out a time or two for streaming applications or remote mounts wired to a Ninja
 
Yes!

Love seeing canon hv's around for any reason.

Thanks for sharing Charles!

I'll keep an eye out for it, I Love the show
 
I didn't mention in the first post--this is going to be on a new comedy series called "Teachers", airing this summer on TVLand.
 
What settings did you use to match footage with the Alexas?

Fortunately matching wasn't the idea--we wanted the footage to look quite different so it would be obvious that it was from the camcorder, not the Alexas. I shot with the Cine profile and the faux 24p mode and recorded to tape, then captured out the HDMI port thru a Blackmagic Intensity Extreme and transcoded to ProRes422HQ, handed off to post who then did a reverse telecine to cut the footage into the 23.98 timeline. In color I intend to pop the saturation, crunch the g and turn up the detail to give it more of a hard-edge camcorder look.
 
This episode of Teachers airs tonight on TVLand at 10:30/9:30c. It's probably one of the best episodes of the season, other than having the HV20 appear in it!
 
Hey Charles - nice work. Just watched my first episode of Teachers. Some pretty funny moments in there. Knowing the back story on the HV20 was nice too. One quick question - early in the episode - there were a couple of shots, in I believe, a teacher's lounge type area. It almost seemed that the one angle (the two shot with the principal) was done on green screen - while the opposite angle wasn't. Was that the case ?
Really loved the shot of the kid climbing out of the ceiling tiles in soft focus behind foreground actors in focus!
 
Just watched it. I can see why you might have thought it was green screen, but it wasn't. That teacher's lounge was a bit of a thorn in my side, I could never get it looking the way I would have liked. We shot in an abandoned school and that room in particular was a struggle from a lighting perspective. Those scenes got pushed up brighter in post than I intended, some of the faces get quite hot.
 
Does HV20 receive a clean 4:2:2 signal with HDMI output and black magic recorder?It's strange to me, hv20 is just a handycam!!!
 
Does HV20 receive a clean 4:2:2 signal with HDMI output and black magic recorder?It's strange to me, hv20 is just a handycam!!!

I still have this camera kicking around, but it hasn't worked in a while. I used it again in 2018 or so on a series where it was simulating a actor's audition camera, and recorded out to an Atomos recorder so post wouldn't have to deal with an HDV tape. The output image I believe is 4:2:0 8 bit.

My sole reason for using this camera in these applications is that it looks like a period camera (both externally and the images it produced, in the use case that opened this thread). I WANTED it to look like a handycam, and it does that very well.
 
I still have this camera kicking around, but it hasn't worked in a while. I used it again in 2018 or so on a series where it was simulating a actor's audition camera, and recorded out to an Atomos recorder so post wouldn't have to deal with an HDV tape. The output image I believe is 4:2:0 8 bit.

My sole reason for using this camera in these applications is that it looks like a period camera (both externally and the images it produced, in the use case that opened this thread). I WANTED it to look like a handycam, and it does that very well.

If you are using an atom recorder to record , can't say the video was created by the hv20... I'm still confused... anyway good luck
 
I don't get what you don't understand. An HV20 has a specific look to it that is almost entirely a function of the sensor and processing, not the recording medium. If I were to record internally on HDV tape and externally on an Atomos and one was to view the clips sequentially, the difference would be negligible (if I were to post it on Youtube, I would guess it would be imperceptible). If however I recorded an Alexa pointed in the same direction onto HDV tape, it would obviously look very different to the HV20. I shoot with older cameras like these to create a look that is difficult or impossible to achieve with modern cameras not because I think it's cool, but it's what the story and project dictates to me. In both scenarios I describe in this thread the footage is meant to have been shot on a camcorder as a story point, so I shot it on a camcorder.

If we are talking about pre-digital cameras, the recording medium does become a factor. Broadcast recording (1" tape etc) was essentially "invisible", i.e. visually lossless compared to the live image from the camera. As you dive down in formats the recording starts to make itself known with various artifacts and noise. The same test I describe above with the HV20 would result in very different results if done with a VHS camcorder, the VHS recording looking notably different than the camera fed to a modern recorder.

Let me know if this needs further explanation.
 
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