Official Sony NEX-VG10 Thread

Guys.
Anyone want to disassembly and make many photos of their precious camera?
I just want to understand difference between NEX5 and VG10.
 
Vitaliy Kiselev said:
Guys.
Anyone want to disassembly and make many photos of their precious camera?
I just want to understand difference between NEX5 and VG10.
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hi,

i just got vg10 in hand 2days.
and i found vg10 can use m mode to shoot video as shuttler as low as 1/6!!(just like sony video cam)
but the downside is, there are no mf enlarge on LCD/VF for mf lens.
no auto gain in m mode. really hard to change exposure during recording.

and it is nex3/5 like menu.....poor interface......

at last, i post the pic of my lovely little camera.:2vrolijk_08:

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Evro said:
Hey Vitaliy, should we be holding our breath for a GH1 style hack for the VG10? :laugh:
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We need to see firmware for this thing.
Most probably is that it uses same Linux based code as NEX cameras.
But NEX firmware is encrypted.
So, only good firm with BGA flash reader can help here.
 
For those with cam in hand, please try adapting some external mics and/or mixers into the audio of this. I know it has no input controls..but the demo audio using the onboard seemed good and I'm wondering if the onboard audio is workable with external input. For instance, with 2 lavs plugged in, does the limiting of one channel force a "linked" limiting of the other?
 
vanvan said:
hi,

i just got vg10 in hand 2days.
and i found vg10 can use m mode to shoot video as shuttler as low as 1/6!!(just like sony video cam)
but the downside is, there are no mf enlarge on LCD/VF for mf lens.
no auto gain in m mode. really hard to change exposure during recording.

and it is nex3/5 like menu.....poor interface......

at last, i post the pic of my lovely little camera.:2vrolijk_08:

20100914_c6f120d70ba5a465ff3dge4o73Qm13QE.jpg
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What rig is that ? And what lens?
 
I would love to find out if a firmware exchange between the vg10 and the vg10e would get you 25p. I'm pre-ordered on a vg10e and don't want to wait.
 
Terrance Odette said:
I would love to find out if a firmware exchange between the vg10 and the vg10e would get you 25p. I'm pre-ordered on a vg10e and don't want to wait.
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Negative, this is will not change american to europe system via this firmware part. The 25p /30p is at a total different place in the camera. Hardly impossible for an user to change that. Unless you desolder the EPROM chips and someone encrypt the content in them and reprogram it, a 10 000$ job, Good bless
 
25p

25p

Can anyone confirm that an actual Euro/PAL model records 25p in a 50i wrapper?
I am deeply concerned that there is no real difference in the two models and that in fact the PAL model records 30p either in a 60i or 50i wrapper.
Sony loves their product fragmentation and providing true 25p would not be consistent with their practise of leaving 24/25p for the pro market.
Blu-Ray does not support 50i, so why would Sony sell a 50i consumer camera which cannot easily be dumped to Blu-Ray?
I am very,very worried that 30p/60i is the ONLY viable option here, given the market this camera is aimed at.
 
Anyone having problems with the microphone on this video camera picking up excessive handling noise? I've been playing with the camera all day and no matter how I try to hold it, inevitably there are creaks, groans and other noises picked up by the mic from my handling of the video camera. I've tried holding my hand as steady as I can, but it seems like even the slightest movement of a finger will generate some bad noise in the final footage. Not sure what to do here, I've checked for external mics for this camera and found just the one, the ecm-cg50 but apparently it's mono and very directional. I tried using the 'scorpion handle' rig that I have, but even when using that lots of handling noise gets picked up. Anyone else having this issue? Not really sure how to resolve this aside from I guess making a custom rig that isolates me as much as possible from the mic?
 
The same comotion over 24P was leveled at Canon when the 5D came out. Back in March, 24P was added in the firmware. At any rate, the 60i format can be overcome easily as others have noted. 24P aside, the VG10 is sweet. Sure it lacks some professional features. That's because it's not for professional that typically spend much more than $2000 for a camera. I've owned many cameras in all ranges of price, performance, features etc. including the NEX-5 and the VG10. Not being happy with the Sony NEX lens, I have my zeiss adapter as well as Canon adapter and lenses. Actually the 18-200 that comes stock on the VG10 isn't bad. Crisper than the 18-55. The higher bit rate on the VG10 definately improves IQ and color is represented better than on NEX-5. Overall, not a bad camera but I expect that a 24P upgrade in firmware is possible at some point.
 
I forgot to mention that there is a problem I'v noticed, and have read that others have too, and that is the lens connection to the camera is intermittantly causing the camera to be inoperable until the camera moves slightly or the lens is held underneath. re-seating the lens will clear it up for a while but it tends to come back. I will be getting a replacement. Sorry if this was discussed already.
 
I am very curious why this camera does not seem to have generated as much buzz and excitement as had been anticipated.
Is everybody holding out until Sony announces their pro s35mm camera?
I thought the VG10 would have been embraced as the extreme low-end s35mm camera, filling the sub $5k void below the AF100
 
I've had the camera now for about 4 weeks and overall I love using it over HDSLR. Ergonomics aside however, there are some serious omissions and crippling by Sony; I just don't buy the fact that the limitations are due to it being a consumer model because, I also own the new Panasonic TMT750 consumer 3D palmcorder and in terms of flexibility, features and manual settings it leaves some serious questions about Sony's bent on frustrating the semi-pro film-maker. I kid you not, this little Panasonic shoots full-HD 1080 50P (PAL model) with 2 types of focus assist & zebras!! Why not on the Sony?????

For anyone interested, I have done a non-sponsored, totally independent review (from the perspective of full-time event film-maker) on the VG10, with sample videos on the Event Filmmaker site, check it out here:
http://www.eventfilmmaker.com/entry.php/10-Moments-In-Chiaroscuro-The-Sony...
 
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Evro said:
I've had the camera now for about 4 weeks and overall I love using it over HDSLR. Ergonomics aside however, there are some serious omissions and crippling by Sony; I just don't buy the fact that the limitations are due to it being a consumer model because, I also own the new Panasonic TMT750 consumer 3D palmcorder and in terms of flexibility, features and manual settings it leaves some serious questions about Sony's bent on frustrating the semi-pro film-maker. I kid you not, this little Panasonic shoots full-HD 1080 50P (PAL model) with 2 types of focus assist & zebras!! Why not on the Sony?????

For anyone interested, I have done a non-sponsored, totally independent review (from the perspective of full-time event film-maker) on the VG10, with sample videos on the Event Filmmaker site, check it out here:
http://www.eventfilmmaker.com/entry.php/10-Moments-In-Chiaroscuro-The-Sony...
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Evro can you confirm that the PAL VG10 shoots true 25p in a 50i wrapper?
I am extremely doubtful that Sony would put something so close to 24p in a consumer camera.
 
Paul V Doherty said:
Evro can you confirm that the PAL VG10 shoots true 25p in a 50i wrapper?
I am extremely doubtful that Sony would put something so close to 24p in a consumer camera.
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Paul I can confirm that the footage is actually 25P in a 50i wrapper, there is no evidence of interlaced jaggies present even on the fastest moving scenes.
Here's a screen grab of a horizontal whip pan from a current project that is set to 1910x1080 @ 50i no de-interlacing has been applied:

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Paul V Doherty said:
I am very curious why this camera does not seem to have generated as much buzz and excitement as had been anticipated.
Is everybody holding out until Sony announces their pro s35mm camera?
I thought the VG10 would have been embraced as the extreme low-end s35mm camera, filling the sub $5k void below the AF100
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Their are a few reasons.
-No 1080 24p mode
-No 720 60p mode
-Very little manual features
-Way over priced for the feature set

It's double the price of a GH1 and has less features.
It's $500 more than a GH2 and has significantly less features.
Being in a camcorder body and having a good mic is not enough to command $2,000.
 
Given the feature omissions with this camera I think I've finally worked out who the camera is aimed at: Rich Japanese senior executives who will shoot their kids' birthday parties and their once in a lifetime trip to Disneyland.
 
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