Stuart Keasley
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Well they're publicly saying ProRes, so that's got to be a good thing :thumbsup:
Odyssey7Q February 2014 Firmware Update
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Colinelves
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Last time I used the Epic I lost a bunch of footage because of a bug in the firmware.
The poster under the name Convergent Design stated: "4k raw and super sampled 4K to HD (ProRes)"
So yes, the this the first time Convergent Design has officially used the word "Pro-Res," so hopefully that means today.
I'm taking this as semi-official confirmation, but would love to hear it from the horses mouth - Mitch or Dan. If this was posted mistakingly, it would be a very cruel mistake, especially since tomorrow is the last possible day for me to upgrade before my shoot
The one who administrates the twitter account used several times "prores" in the past i think.
Clermond
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I admit I was checking http://www.convergent-design.com/FirmwareUpdates/Odyssey7Q.aspx and at the first moment I thought YEAH! when I saw version no. 1.0.2014 but it's still October 30, 2013 ;-)
MPB
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i agree. but on the other hand, the way the product life cycle works now, a given piece of gear might be out there for nigh on a year before the dust settles and the conservative-minded production professional can be assured that they are purchasing a proven, relatively bug-free product that plays well in an established work-flow. which is to say, you may have given up a significant portion of the equipment's useable life span, or opportunity to get a return on your investment. it seems like a lot of people that do the best at capitalizing on new gear get in early and then get out just as quickly.
cuervo
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I think it's pretty logical to do just that. Get in early, use it until the market for the product starts to decline, then move on to the next cutting edge. It really is about ROI. Part of ROI is keeping the resource committed, full time, i.e. having a backlog of orders. Expensive hardware, sitting on the shelf, not being used, is a money drain and will definitely cut into the ROI.
This is why I consider any manufacturer making claims that are misleading to be out of integrity for any business that buys their hardware. I have to depend on high value hardware being able to carry it's weight. Otherwise, I can just rent it. I've considered, several times, investing in an F5, but the acquisition cost doesn't justify the usefulness. And the life cycle due to technology obsolecence, is too short to justify the COO. CD's Gemini was the same, the O7Q came down enough to be justifiable on the spreadsheet. But, as it stands, this investment is losing money for me, because it's sitting on the shelf instead of on my cam.
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MPB
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i'm not sure i follow...
is that not the same point i was making?
products are now released into the wild with far less testing and QC than previously was the case. that means, necessarily, that manufacturers' claims are inherently less accurate. everyone involved is trying to get the jump on the accelerated product cycle.
is that not the same point i was making?
products are now released into the wild with far less testing and QC than previously was the case. that means, necessarily, that manufacturers' claims are inherently less accurate. everyone involved is trying to get the jump on the accelerated product cycle.
cuervo
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yep!
No argument from me. In point of fact C-D has done this before.....they develop and release hardware on their own schedule, without much thought about the users. Love their product support, but, as far as being dependable enough for a reasonable business plan, well.....'nuff said. They seem to have more of a business mission to do product development and R&D than long term commercialization of a product line. I guess I'm just not used to a purchase over $1000-2000 being expendable. My bad...and I really hope my FS700 is good for a few more cycles. The higher the entry price, the longer the product life needs to be.
And yes, I know that a company with deeper pockets than mine doesn't care about this fact. That's what's so hard about a technology dependent business. The faster the technology hits the market, the shorter the life cycle, the higher the COO, and the harder it is to stay profitable.
No argument from me. In point of fact C-D has done this before.....they develop and release hardware on their own schedule, without much thought about the users. Love their product support, but, as far as being dependable enough for a reasonable business plan, well.....'nuff said. They seem to have more of a business mission to do product development and R&D than long term commercialization of a product line. I guess I'm just not used to a purchase over $1000-2000 being expendable. My bad...and I really hope my FS700 is good for a few more cycles. The higher the entry price, the longer the product life needs to be.
And yes, I know that a company with deeper pockets than mine doesn't care about this fact. That's what's so hard about a technology dependent business. The faster the technology hits the market, the shorter the life cycle, the higher the COO, and the harder it is to stay profitable.
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Matt Allard has just reported the firmware release:
http://www.newsshooter.com/2014/03/...y-gets-prores-and-fs700-raw-firmware-upgrade/
http://www.newsshooter.com/2014/03/...y-gets-prores-and-fs700-raw-firmware-upgrade/
Matt's article was posted on March 19th, so that's one day in the future
But that's a good sign for sure as Matt Allard is definitely in the know.
Got it. I thought he lived in Europe. My bad.
I wondering if Mitch or anyone else can answer the question about the lut support on the odyssey 7q? Can a lut (like CaptainHook's lut) be loaded to the 7q so one can view footage from the blackmagic production 4K camera with the lut applied? Is anyone using the 7q with the BMC4k? What are the positive and negative for using the 7q with the BMC4k? I am interested with the 7q because I don't have a monitor and I also have the fs700 and the bmc4k. I will use the 7q as a 4k recorder for the fs700 and as a monitor for both cameras. Thanks in advance for any response!
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