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I had someone telling me that they thought you could get 6k or 7k out of the Samsung NX1 camera vs the 4k it already has. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
NX1 - 6k?
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maranfilms
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I highly doubt it, Going off memory only, I thought I read it used a 6k sensor, However I stand to be corrected if that's not the case. It's the engine that matters, I would guess it doesn't have the horsepower to read that much data fast enough without overheating. I'm certainly not qualified to give a definitive answer, but if I had to guess, it would be no. Take the Red Dragon for instance, it uses fans to keep it cool enough to use without constantly overheating like the Red One did when shooting in hot conditions.
New_Zealand
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Thanks. I have been thinking of getting this camera. Everything looks pretty good so far and the price points is Nice 
maranfilms
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It's a great camera, especially after the firmware update that enabled a log profile. I don't think any editors can ingest h265 footage yet, but from what I've read there's some decent encoders out there for re-encoding to a friendly format for editing software. I also read a while back, they will no longer be making cameras, not sure if it was validated by a reputable source. Just food for thought, I wouldn't want to invest in their glass unless I knew I would have the potential to use it on future bodies. We all know how short the life span of a camera is these day's, but if your not concerned, I would grab one if I were you.
http://www.dtcreports.com/weeklyrif...cameraediting-software-logjam-about-to-burst/
Considering that the agreement on streaming royalties for the HEVC was only finalized last week, it made sense for the major pro editing suits to hold off on their releases. I would anticipate a slew of announcements at the CES.
Oh, despite the full readout of its 28 MPX sensor, NX-1 is a 4K camera.
Considering that the agreement on streaming royalties for the HEVC was only finalized last week, it made sense for the major pro editing suits to hold off on their releases. I would anticipate a slew of announcements at the CES.
Oh, despite the full readout of its 28 MPX sensor, NX-1 is a 4K camera.
New_Zealand
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I bit the bullet today and order the NX1 with the 16-50mm f/2.0 S lens.
I believe it's F/2.0-2.8 ... I know, quibbling.
New_Zealand
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DLD - Yes you are right on the lens
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Michael Carter
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The only facts right now are that Samsung has discontinued the NX1 in many european markets, and that they say they are still in the camera biz. People that follow the industry expect them to drop their fixed-lens biz. Whether they'll keep the NX line going is all a big guess. They have a big investment in their APS-C lineup, and the NX1 tech is years ahead of Nikon and Canon. I don't think the NX1 took off like it could have with still enthusiasts, semi-pros and pros, likely due to worries about committing to an ecosystem and the word "SAMSUNG" on the body and strap. Y'kno,w that logo strap is a big deal for hobbyists and soccer moms… Samsung has something like six BILLION dollars in cash-on-hand, so dumping a multi-year investement in R&D, tooling, manufacturing and distribution may not be a big deal for a company that only wants big profits in a new market.
All the guessing is a waste of time though… we'll learn the truth in 2016 I suppose.
If you're making money with the gear and the features are right for you, it's not a really significant investment for affordable 4K with actually useful OIS and AF. If you could expect a five year lifespan (and get the 5-year extended Samsung offers), the camera should be outclassed before it dies.
Keep in mind that it's a big step ahead of the competition and it's unlikely we'll see anything this capable at this price point for some time.
For DSLR shooting, the big fails of the NX system are somewhat limited DR and pretty bad rolling shutter. The IQ and functionality is very hard to beat that the current prices -
Body only, add a charger, spare batteries and lens adapter - $1100 or so;
Body + kit zoom (really useful as a wide, steadicam/rig/handheld AF lens - it's a steal at the $200 add-on, great little zoom), plus the above, $1300ish.
Body and the S zoom (many say it's the best APS-C zoom out there - it's a pretty killer lens) - around two grand.
If you're working regularly, that's really a reasonable outlay if you have yet to buy your "I own it" 4K, non-rental camera. As a Nikon shooter, Samsung came out with everything I'd wished Nikon would do, and then some, at a killer price, right after the D7200 release felt like a big "screw you, we're lazy" from Nikon. The firmware upgrades made it a no-brainer for me. And that sensor just rocks all day with my Nikkor glass. I imagine the GH4 guys may disagree about the value of the NX, but the small sensor and the IQ never did it for me.
I posted this in other relevant threads.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/12/133_193914.html
Everything about Samsung photo-video PR announcements is so obtuse, one can read anything into them. They're obviously subjected to legal constraints about what they can or can not say and, going into the CES, everything coming out of their HQ sounds totally vetted by the head of their legal department.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/12/133_193914.html
Everything about Samsung photo-video PR announcements is so obtuse, one can read anything into them. They're obviously subjected to legal constraints about what they can or can not say and, going into the CES, everything coming out of their HQ sounds totally vetted by the head of their legal department.
Michael Carter
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…aaaaand to add to the drama - US NX1 prices back to entry-day levels this week. Right when all the fence-sitters expected to get the post-holiday clearance.
Maybe we'll get a clue from CES? An NX2 would be a lovely thing some day.
Maybe we'll get a clue from CES? An NX2 would be a lovely thing some day.
John Caballero
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@New Zealand. Make sure to update to firmware 1.40 if the camera doesn't come with it already. Latest version of Premiere CC and Power Director both already edit H265 natively. The NX1 is a great camera both for stills and video!
New_Zealand
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Will do on the update.
Isn't CES this month?
Trying to figure out what is the best setting for film shooting.
Isn't CES this month?
Trying to figure out what is the best setting for film shooting.
Michael Carter
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Check EOSHD and Andrew Reid's setup guide for starters - getting lovely results with my old Nikkors, too.
At some point I'd like to test with really mild diffusion, like a promist black 1/8 or 1/4, too. Funny, the entire first "Iron Man" film was shot with low values of promist blacks… and you don't think of that as a"diffused" film...
CES "officially" runs 6th-9th (Thursday through Sunday) but a lot of the major announcements will come out on Tuesday and Wednesday (which, I think, is tomorrow in New Zealand ... or was it yesterday?). Sony's streaming its news on the 5th. Others are also slotted around these dates.
To me, in terms of photo-video, CES is a reasonable gauge of what the low-mid tier products are about. These will establish the base of what is possible with today's technology. Rumors are that a lot of enthusiast/pro quality gear will be shown in February's CP+ show in Japan, a home territory for every one of these photo-video big boys.
BTW, other rumors have these major announcements spread out between now and February. The Japanese aren't necessarily against a little collusion and this will allow each major brand its day in the sun. At least, for a week or two.
To me, in terms of photo-video, CES is a reasonable gauge of what the low-mid tier products are about. These will establish the base of what is possible with today's technology. Rumors are that a lot of enthusiast/pro quality gear will be shown in February's CP+ show in Japan, a home territory for every one of these photo-video big boys.
BTW, other rumors have these major announcements spread out between now and February. The Japanese aren't necessarily against a little collusion and this will allow each major brand its day in the sun. At least, for a week or two.
caseywilsondp
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ha, yeah that would be amazing, but this was done in the lab, and likely not even in the body of the camera. as samsung has no 'higher end' camera, if it were possible in body, they would certainly include it. however write speeds required for 6k@240fps would be insane, even with the amazing h265 codec.
