No new CineAlta at NAB

JMtheDP

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Well, that surprised me as much as anyone. I fully expected an F65 replacement to be trotted out this year.

Anyone else surprised at the announcement?
 
Not really, the F65 is still doing some very cool work on big productions that can handle it (Like Ang Lee's new 4k 120fps film) and the F5 and F55 are finally becoming firmly established cameras in TV (the F55 in narrative and the F5 in reality/lifestyle).

And I get the impression Sony has finally learnt a bit of a lesson from Arri about lengthening their product cycles for pro gear, so that people who buy in can get a decent return on their investments.
 
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True, but ARRI still have umpteen different variations on their ALEXA formula. I expected SOMETHING from the CineAlta line-up.
 
I think Sony has a pretty good buzz going with F55 right now, not sure about F65 for features but surely more bigger budget features would utilize the F65 over the F55.. or shoot with both.

Sony said a month ago no new CineAlta camera's for NAB - and looks like they kept their word.

What realistically would have improved upon what's available today from the F55 & F65?
 
F65 wasn't even displayed at the Sony booth this year. I asked the Sony rep why and he said the camera wasn't popular last year so they filled its spot with more broadcast centric cameras.
 
I think they have some time to just hang out for a bit.

Their next top-level cinema cameras should be cutting-edge, beautiful 8K machines with new technology and lots of features, and it's too early for that now.
 
it looked like Sony had just declared doing a firmware update for REC2020 on the F55 was good enough (even though its various cinema modes obviously encompasses that). Its kinda funny how the big thing this year is "HDR," when the cameras have been capable of that for a long time, as have many of the UHD displays.
 
I think Sony has a pretty good buzz going with F55 right now, not sure about F65 for features but surely more bigger budget features would utilize the F65 over the F55.. or shoot with both.

Sony said a month ago no new CineAlta camera's for NAB - and looks like they kept their word.

What realistically would have improved upon what's available today from the F55 & F65?

So Dennis, starting to feel better about your F55 ?
i hope so, I still think it's a darn good camera.
 
Haha yeah 100%.

What was I thinking before? :shocked:

I still fancy new technology, so I foolishly put $500 down on Craft Camera reservation. I can afford for it to be sh!t, I have one good camera already.

:)
 
Haha yeah 100%.

What was I thinking before? :shocked:

I still fancy new technology, so I foolishly put $500 down on Craft Camera reservation. I can afford for it to be sh!t, I have one good camera already.

:)
Dennis your $500 is gone ;-) If I have ever seen vaporware this is it... I've seen more realistic products go the way of unicorns ;-)
 
They need to introduce Prores recording AND a better post flow or they will never get the F65, or its next version, of the dark. Prores 444 on Arri's is so good many productions are using it over raw these days. Post rules camera purchases for most. Imagine if Red had started out that way? instead they are and will remain a far 2nd to Arri. Sony needs to get out of that insane codec thinking.
 
The problem is Sony's decisions to not include ProRes were perfectly sound from an engineering perspective. Sadly logic doesn't always win out.
 
If they'd just come out with a new recorder that took the front end of the F65 and pushed it through their AXS-R7 technology, and gave the option for ProRes recording (in all framerates and resolutions) in addition to Sony Raw - all of which could be ingested through a simple USB-3 card reader like the F5(5) - they would completely give the F65 a new life (and a mammoth amount of appeal over where it currently stands).
 
That would be great, but it won't happen. I don't think they'd get the returns they want.

We have to remember most of these guys are happy with upscaled 4K so have little interest in the benefits the F65 brings
 
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